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Old 02-23-2016, 03:43 PM   #16
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They never were. Their economy and welfare system was always unsustainable.

This is what happens when you put irresponsible morons in charge.
Funnily enough, considering it's always paraded as an example of how socialism works by ignorant parrots, Sweden's more recent prosperity was actually a result of reforms that came about as a result of the need to curtail the out-of-control welfare spending buildup between the 1970s and 1990s, which unsurprisingly coincided with its weakest period of prosperity during the entire past century.

So things actually happened the opposite way to that which the parrots portrayed.
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Old 02-23-2016, 03:55 PM   #17
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Funnily enough, considering it's always paraded as an example of how socialism works by ignorant parrots, Sweden's more recent prosperity was actually a result of reforms that came about as a result of the need to curtail the out-of-control welfare spending buildup between the 1970s and 1990s, which unsurprisingly coincided with its weakest period of prosperity during the entire past century.

So things actually happened the opposite way to that which the parrots portrayed.
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Old 02-23-2016, 05:45 PM   #18
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This isn't a new thing with Sweden. They've been determined to destroy themselves for a while. Sweden oddly is probably by far the most anti-Swedish country in the world.
Sweden is a consensus heavy society. Once multiculturalism became hip, Sweden never stood a chance
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Old 02-23-2016, 05:57 PM   #19
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Is this really happening already? I thought it'd take longer than this...



To be fair they do exaggerate: i saw a guy call the entirety of Birmingham a 'no-go area'



I mean, I understand that no-one really wants to go to Birmingham, but it's far from being true that even most of Birmingham is like parts of Bradford (which really are like that).

True, I am working with refugees in a lot of these areas, even had to do some research for a paper there not too long ago. It is all exaggerated. Sure, I'd never in a million years live or hangout there but I mean, calling it a no go zone were even the police is afraid to enter is a joke.
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:12 PM   #20
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True, I am working with refugees in a lot of these areas, even had to do some research for a paper there not too long ago. It is all exaggerated. Sure, I'd never in a million years live or hangout there but I mean, calling it a no go zone were even the police is afraid to enter is a joke.
Why did Police Inspector Lars Alvarsjö write this article claiming that there are no-go zones in Svenska Dagbladet?


Perhaps you are upper class and never actually go in to any of the areas that the Police Inspector is describing in his article.

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Magnus Ranstorp, who researches in terrorism and radicalization at the Swedish National Defence College, agrees with the police’ assessment. He believes that the situation is a disaster.

“In the worst areas extremists have taken over, while the Swedes apathetic look on. Justice and security are threatened as the police is about to succumb, and it only seems to get worse,” he says. …

Paulina Neuding is social commentator and writer for Svenska Dagbladet and Göteborgs-Posten, agrees with the terror researcher’s view.

“It’s new, that the police warns openly about the situation, and it expresses a total desperation about the dangerous developments in the radical suburbs where you have to wear a bulletproof vest to help sick people. It is serious, but as nobody speaks out about it, Sweden is split apart and extremism grows and paints a bleak prospects for the future,” says Paulina Neuding.”

Please explain.
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:21 PM   #21
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Americans believe everything they read

Sheep

No wonder the media managed to manipulate an entire nation for 50+ years
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:26 PM   #22
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Why are you just quoting wacko incredibly biased websites and claiming it as fact in your headlines? It's incredibly irresponsible. And a guy like Dresta who claims to be a scholar has no issues with these sources. Just goes to show you how hypocritical he is when specific views align with his own.

I am also critical of the overly liberal way of accepting refugees by the hordes in Europe but this yellow journalism is fkin bs and leads to irrational hate rather than informed opinions.

So please stop being a fkin jackass for once in your life if you care about a cause do it the right way instead of half assing it like the rest of your miserable existence.
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:27 PM   #23
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Americans believe everything they read

Sheep

No wonder the media managed to manipulate an entire nation for 50+ years
Says someone who thinks he shouldn't have the freedom to own a gun and that his country should be flooded with hostile uncivilized foreigners because not doing so would be "racist"...


Who's manipulated by the media?
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:36 PM   #24
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Americans believe everything they read

Sheep

No wonder the media managed to manipulate an entire nation for 50+ years

Why did Police Inspector Lars Alvarsjö write this article claiming that there are no-go zones in Svenska Dagbladet?


Why does the Norwegian PM want to reject all asylum applications in the event of the collapse of the Swedish asylum system?
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Norway wants to deny all refugees if 'it all breaks down'


In an effort to stem the flow of refugees coming from other Nordic countries and Russia, the Norwegian PM is proposing a law that would allow the nation to prevent asylum-seekers from non-conflict areas entering Norway.

Norway's tough asylum plans face resistance (17 Feb 16)
Norway 'lost' 661 asylum seekers in January alone (09 Feb 16)
Asylum seekers as young as 11 come to Norway married (02 Feb 16)

Norwegian Prime Minister Erna Solberg is proposing emergency legislation that would allow Norway to deny entry to all asylum seekers who do come directly from countries in conflict.

Solberg said that the legislation would only be implemented in an emergency situation and would protect Norway from the deteriorating situation within the Schengen region and the mounting strain the Swedish asylum system is facing from the current refugee crisis in Europe.

Under her plan, asylum seekers entering from Russia or other Nordic countries would be immediately rejected if they are not coming directly from areas of conflict.

The legislation would go against the UN Refugee Convention and has therefore faced strong criticism, but Solberg said it would only be implemented in the face of a complete breakdown of Sweden's asylum system, which took in 163,000 asylum seekers in 2015 and expects an additional 100,000 this year.

"It is a force majeure proposal which we will have in the event that it all breaks down, the influx continues and everyone ends up in Norway because we are at the outer edge of Europe,” Solberg told Danish daily Berlingske.
"Norway is the last stop, isn't it?" she added.

Even though the PM said her proposal would only be used in emergency situations, it has been slammed by the Norwegian Lawyers' Association as a direct violation of Norway’s international obligations.

"Several of these proposals violate human rights. We see the law as a rushed proposal," Bente Mostad Tjugum, the head of the association's asylum and immigration committee, told broadcaster NRK.

Solberg has defended the proposed legislation as a safety net for Norway.

“If the mechanisms in place in Europe do not work, then we have a chance to reject them [asylum seekers, ed.]. It is not a suggestion that we should do such a thing in the future, but it is a legal security measure if other countries fail to live up to their obligations,” Solberg continued.

The legislation will be presented to parliament soon, and is expected to gain broad support as Norway has begun adopting stricter refugee policies. Parties continue to bicker, however, over the government's 40-point asylum plan.

In 2015, around 30,000 people applied for asylum in Norway, a country of 5.2 million.

http://www.thelocal.no/20160223/norw...r-refugee-laws


Sweden is the country with censored state run media. Not America.

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Old 02-23-2016, 07:36 PM   #25
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It's not about not being racist its about helping fellow humans.

What did you do to be born in America?


And I especially don't have a problem with it when 90% of the immigrants are great people. Every country and society has bad apples. Ain't gonna turn my back on the world because of that



And why would owning an gun be legal? Seems idiotic. Asking for people to get shot, either by accident or on purpose. And even here, if you really want to shoot someone, you'll get to shoot someone. But the government doesn't have to make it easier for you

The number of home invasions in Norway is probably close to zero
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:37 PM   #26
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Why are you just quoting wacko incredibly biased websites and claiming it as fact in your headlines? It's incredibly irresponsible. And a guy like Dresta who claims to be a scholar has no issues with these sources. Just goes to show you how hypocritical he is when specific views align with his own.

I am also critical of the overly liberal way of accepting refugees by the hordes in Europe but this yellow journalism is fkin bs and leads to irrational hate rather than informed opinions.

So please stop being a fkin jackass for once in your life if you care about a cause do it the right way instead of half assing it like the rest of your miserable existence.

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“The legal system, which is a cornerstone of a democratic society, is about to collapse in Sweden.

This writes police inspector in Region Stockholm Lars Alvarsjö in an article in Svenska Dagbladet with a warning that the legal system itself is threatened by collapse.
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:38 PM   #27
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It's not about not being racist its about helping fellow humans.

What did you do to be born in America?


And I especially don't have a problem with it when 90% of the immigrants are great people. Every country and society has bad apples. Ain't gonna turn my back on the world because of that



And why would owning an gun be legal? Seems idiotic. Asking for people to get shot, either by accident or on purpose. And even here, if you really want to shoot someone, you'll get to shoot someone. But the government doesn't have to make it easier for you

The number of home invasions in Norway is probably close to zero
Please refrain from logical fallacy and deflection tactics. Thank you


Why did Police Inspector Lars Alvarsjö write this article claiming that there are no-go zones in Svenska Dagbladet?


Why does the Norwegian PM want to reject all asylum applications in the event of the collapse of the Swedish asylum system?
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:39 PM   #28
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Why did Police Inspector Lars Alvarsjö write this article claiming that there are no-go zones in Svenska Dagbladet?

Why does anyone say anything? Why does British newspapers say Simeone will go to Chelsea?

No-go zones sounds like a term taken out of context.. The part about police being scared of going there is obvious bullshit
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:40 PM   #29
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Why does anyone say anything? Why does British newspapers say Simeone will go to Chelsea?

No-go zones sounds like a term taken out of context.. The part about police being scared of going there is obvious bullshit
So the Police Inspector is an evil liar who made it all up?


The only naive one here is you.
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:41 PM   #30
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I'll believe that that the Norwegian PM shuts down all immigration when I see it


Why do you believe it?
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