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Old 11-04-2011, 01:37 PM   #91
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Well, the game is different. Superstars are gonna play well in either league, but "normal" players can fit in and produce better in an specific league.

the point is that Parker didn't even produce better in Euroleague than he did in his Raptors days either...in fact he was putting up similar numbers in both sides of the Atlantic. That's why all of this trolling about him is amusing and pathetic at the same time
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:39 PM   #92
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Default Re: Nicolas "Euroleague Pippen" Batum = 6.33 Turnovers Per Game In Euroleague

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the point is that Parker didn't even produce better in Euroleague than he did in his Raptors days either...in fact he was putting up similar numbers in both sides of the Atlantic. That's why all of this trolling about him is amusing and pathetic at the same time
No one would troll about it if Euroleague (the poster) wasn't constantly trying to convince everyone that euroleague players are better than NBA players.
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:41 PM   #93
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Default Re: Nicolas "Euroleague Pippen" Batum = 6.33 Turnovers Per Game In Euroleague

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No one would troll about it if Euroleague (the poster) wasn't constantly trying to convince everyone that euroleague players are better than NBA players.
Then just add him to ignore. It's sad to see how the only threads talking about real basketball (till the lockout ends) are ruined by him and the idiots posting the opposite shit.
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:55 PM   #94
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Default Re: Nicolas "Euroleague Pippen" Batum = 6.33 Turnovers Per Game In Euroleague

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the point is that Parker didn't even produce better in Euroleague than he did in his Raptors days either...in fact he was putting up similar numbers in both sides of the Atlantic. That's why all of this trolling about him is amusing and pathetic at the same time
Yes he did. Check minutes played and shooting percentages.

He shot better in Euroleague, and scored more points or about the same points on LESS minutes than in the NBA.

That, by definition, is playing better.
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:59 PM   #95
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Yes he did. Check minutes played and shooting percentages.

He shot better in Euroleague, and scored more points or about the same points on LESS minutes than in the NBA.

That, by definition, is playing better.

who cares - this is nitpicking at it's finest...
He shot better because he played alongside other quality players like Jasikevicius, who is notorious for threading a pass through any defense and being elite shooter himself. I've watched all of those Maccabi teams play, and they cruised to most of their wins by completely trashing their opponents. They were just a level above anyone in Europe at that time
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:02 PM   #96
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the point is that Parker didn't even produce better in Euroleague than he did in his Raptors days either...in fact he was putting up similar numbers in both sides of the Atlantic. That's why all of this trolling about him is amusing and pathetic at the same time

Please compare Maccabi's team scoring average and pace to the Raptors', then come back if you think you have a good argument.

Better yet, let's look at the top scorers in the Eurolegue in the last 5 years.

2005-2006 Drew Nicholas -- 18.45
2006–07 Juan Carlos Navarro --16.77
2007–08 Marc Salyers -- 21.78
2008–09 Igor Rakočević --17.95
2009–10 Linas Kleiza --17.13
2010–11 Keith Langford ---18.7

Parker averaged about 16ppg on 57% shooting in his stay with Maccabi.

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Old 11-04-2011, 02:10 PM   #97
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who cares - this is nitpicking at it's finest...
He shot better because he played alongside other quality players like Jasikevicius, who is notorious for threading a pass through any defense and being elite shooter himself. I've watched all of those Maccabi teams play, and they cruised to most of their wins by completely trashing their opponents. They were just a level above anyone in Europe at that time
No, it isn't nitpicking. LOL at you, Parker played with LeBron James, who draws the most attention out of anyone in the freaking league. LOL at Jasikevicius.

Luis Scola, for instance, scored about 15 PPG in 38 minutes on 50% shooting in the NBA.
In Europe, he scored about 15 PPG in 28 minutes on 60% shooting.

It's very clear where he played better.
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:14 PM   #98
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No, it isn't nitpicking. LOL at you, Parker played with LeBron James, who draws the most attention out of anyone in the freaking league. LOL at Jasikevicius.

Luis Scola, for instance, scored about 15 PPG in 38 minutes on 50% shooting in the NBA.
In Europe, he scored about 15 PPG in 28 minutes on 60% shooting.

It's very clear where he played better.

it IS nitpicking because you fail to comprehend how much easier it is score when you are on the superior team to your opponents...NBA fans generally fail to grasp this concept, because talent is spread out more or less evenly there, which is not the case in Europe. And back in his Lebron days he was already over the hill and used a spot-up shooter mostly...come back to me when you know what are you talking about
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:15 PM   #99
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Well, the game is different. Superstars are gonna play well in either league, but "normal" players can fit in and produce better in an specific league.


explaining WHY Parker could come in and be a 2 time MVP is where Lakas should put his energy.

But he is incapable of doing anything other than calling people liars, idiots, racists, xenophobes etc etc etc.

The fact that he tries to spin people blatantly trolling him as them thinking guys like Batum are GOAT in EL is so mind bogglingly dumb it would be like thinking Johnathan Swift was seriously proposing cannibalism in A Modest Proposal as a serious answer to aiding an impoverished Ireland.
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:17 PM   #100
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No, it isn't nitpicking. LOL at you, Parker played with LeBron James, who draws the most attention out of anyone in the freaking league. LOL at Jasikevicius.
He was older when he played when Lebron.
And don't laugh at Jasikevicius, while he sucked at the NBA, his game's perfect for FIBA ball. If I'm not mistaken, he's played great against the US team in the past too.
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explaining WHY Parker could come in and be a 2 time MVP is where Lakas should put his energy.

But he is incapable of doing anything other than calling people liars, idiots, racists, xenophobes etc etc etc.

The fact that he tries to spin people blatantly trolling him as them thinking guys like Batum are GOAT in EL is so mind bogglingly dumb it would be like thinking Johnathan Swift was seriously proposing cannibalism in A Modest Proposal as a serious answer to aiding an impoverished Ireland.
Brilliant analogy! (repped)
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:20 PM   #102
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Oh and while you're at it, explain to me how Igor Rakočević(Euroleague's leading scorer in 08-09) averaged 2 points in the NBA and was waived by two teams.
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Oh and while you're at it, explain to me how Igor Rakočević(Euroleague's leading scorer in 08-09) averaged 2 points in the NBA and was waived by two teams.
As I posted before, there's players whose skills are better suited for FIBA ball.
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:23 PM   #104
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As I posted before, there's players whose skills are better suited for FIBA ball.
No, they're simply not good enough to average those numbers against superior competition.
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:24 PM   #105
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Oh and while you're at it, explain to me how Igor Rakočević(Euroleague's leading scorer in 08-09) averaged 2 points in the NBA and was waived by two teams.

it doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice that only athletic swingmen can succeed in NBA...not sure what is there to explain about really
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