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As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
Has there ever been a period in NBA history where there were so many great scorers at once? AI, TMac, Kobe...
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Re: As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
yeah these days 27 ppg will win you the scoring title
Iverson was always good for 30+ ppg, T Mac as well
from 01-10 there was only one time the scoring leader averaged less than 30 per game
from 10-15 there has only been on time the scoring leader averaged more than 30 per game
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National High School Star
Re: As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
Yeah when MJ played, except Mj won all of them
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Re: As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
Originally Posted by lilteapot
Has there ever been a period in NBA history where there were so many great scorers at once? AI, TMac, Kobe...
In 1960-61:
1. Wilt Chamberlain* ▪ PHW 38.4
2. Elgin Baylor* ▪ LAL 34.8
3. Oscar Robertson* ▪ CIN 30.5
4. Bob Pettit* ▪ STL 27.9
1961-62:
Points Per Game
1. Wilt Chamberlain* ▪ PHW 50.4
2. Walt Bellamy* ▪ CHP 31.6
3. Bob Pettit* ▪ STL 31.1
4. Jerry West* ▪ LAL 30.8
5. Oscar Robertson* ▪ CIN 30.8
1962-63:
1. Wilt Chamberlain* ▪ SFW 44.8
2. Elgin Baylor* ▪ LAL 34.0
3. Bob Pettit* ▪ STL 28.4
4. Oscar Robertson* ▪ CIN 28.3
5. Walt Bellamy* ▪ CHZ 27.9
1963-64:
Points Per Game
1. Wilt Chamberlain* ▪ SFW 36.9
2. Oscar Robertson* ▪ CIN 31.4
3. Jerry West* ▪ LAL 28.7
4. Bob Pettit* ▪ STL 27.4
5. Walt Bellamy* ▪ BAL 27.0
etc.
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Re: As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
Kobe never cared about them. Willingly gifted one to durant one year on the last day by sitting out
Hes lost a ton of them by a fraction. Now imagine if he thought of them like rings or cared about them as much as a guy like mj.. he'd have won it in 2003,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2012,2013
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Re: As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
Kobe never cared about them. Willingly gifted one to durant one year on the last day by sitting out
Hes lost a ton of them by a fraction. Now imagine if he thought of them like rings or cared about them as much as a guy like mj.. he'd have won it in 2003,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2012,2013
And MJ has more scoring titles AND more rings
Bean overrated as phuck. Half the scoring titles of Iverson and Durant.
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College star
Re: As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
Still one of the GOAT scorers.
Originally Posted by lilteapot
Has there ever been a period in NBA history where there were so many great scorers at once? AI, TMac, Kobe...
Mid-to-late 80's... Jordan, Bird, King, Moses, Dantley, Nique, Kareem, English, Dale Ellis, Chuck, Malone, McHale, Drexler, Hakeem, Gervin...
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Re: As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
Kobe never cared about them. Willingly gifted one to durant one year on the last day by sitting out
Hes lost a ton of them by a fraction. Now imagine if he thought of them like rings or cared about them as much as a guy like mj.. he'd have won it in 2003,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2012,2013
Kobes had his shot to reach Jordan heights. Oh well.
On to the next.
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Re: As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
And MJ has more scoring titles AND more rings
Bean overrated as phuck. Half the scoring titles of Iverson and Durant.
So you say jordan has more rings. Then say kobes overrated and is lesser than durant/iverson who both own zero rings
Logic... none seen here
Btw kobe was never as obsessed with a loser award like the scoring title
Jordan was the only guy to do it while winning because the bulls were built on defense. Jordan also had pippen to do the playmaking ball handling duties.
Mj could focus entirely on scoring without a care of how 25 shots a game would interfere with the teams offensive chemistry. Sonce ot wasnt built on cohesive stars sacrificing numbers. But more so defensive specialists that were happy to contribute whatever they could offensovely.
Pau gasol pouted all the time and he was getting 19ppg... pippen was enamored with the idea of even just getting 16ppg. As long as he could be the main stopper on defense and dish out 7-8 dimes
Kobe never had a guy like that. Especially with shaq
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Re: As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
So you say jordan has more rings. Then say kobes overrated and is lesser than durant/iverson who both own zero rings
Logic... none seen here
2<4... perfect logic
Btw kobe was never as obsessed with a loser award like the scoring title
Prove it.
Jordan was the only guy to do it while winning because the bulls were built on defense. Jordan also had pippen to do the playmaking ball handling duties.
Mj could focus entirely on scoring without a care of how 25 shots a game would interfere with the teams offensive chemistry. Sonce ot wasnt built on cohesive stars sacrificing numbers. But more so defensive specialists that were happy to contribute whatever they could offensovely.
Kobe and Jordan both played SG in the triangle under Phil Jackson. One guy had 10 scoring titles in 15 seasons (5 MVPs, 6 rings, 6 finals MVPs), the other has 2 scoring titles in 19 seasons (1 MVP, 5 rings, 2 finals MVPs).
Pau gasol pouted all the time and he was getting 19ppg... pippen was enamored with the idea of even just getting 16ppg. As long as he could be the main stopper on defense and dish out 7-8 dimes
You spout a whole lot of bullshit. How do you know what Kobe obsessed over or what Pippen was enamored with?
Scottie had 4 seasons playing alongside Jordan where he averaged 19 PPG or more, Pau had 0 playing alongside Bean. So what the phuck are you talking about?
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phal5
Re: As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
His four straight 50 point games, 62 in 3 quarters against an NBA finalist, 81 point game (best of the modern era), and overall 32,000 points don't tell you how dominant he was?
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Good High School Starter
Re: As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
He never cared about stats. He'd sit out 4th quarters if his team was blowing out their opponents.
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NBA All-star
Re: As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
Originally Posted by catch24
His four straight 50 point games, 62 in 3 quarters against an NBA finalist, 81 point game (best of the modern era), and overall 32,000 points don't tell you how dominant he was?
What are you even talking about?
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Re: As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
probably more worth noting that he went to the finals in each of the three seasons following his two consecutive scoring titles
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I rule the local playground
Re: As dominant a scorer as Kobe was, it's strange how he only won 2 scoring titles.
Well it's like this. The time for Kobe to rack up tons of scoring titles would have to have been from 2000-2008. If Kobe wasn't playing on a team like the Lakers you'd have to think he would have won more than 2 of em, instead he won championships MJ once said he'd cut 10 points off his scoring average for one more championship.
Just consider the fact that come post season Kobe was giving you a consistent 30-6-6 always, that's all that matters.
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