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Old 03-12-2018, 11:48 AM   #271
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Its a simple concept your dumb ass isnt capable of understanding.

Let me put it this way,
$130m is how much annual payroll costs would be for an elite NBA team

200k is how much you and your entire mildly retarded family will earn for the rest of your lives flipping burgers. The difference means as much as your influence on the NBA finals
One / 1 / 1st = highest, biggest, most, fastest etc..etc...

Two/ 2 / 2nd = 2nd highest, 2nd biggest, 2nd most, 2nd fastest.

Who's number 1 on this list and who's 2nd on this list???

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/

Simple question for a simpleton
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Old 03-12-2018, 04:07 PM   #272
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Let's not forget his defense, court vision and play making ability. Nobody else in the draft can do those 3 things better. You can say Tatum plays better defense but he can't play make as well or has a court vision anywhere as great as Lonzo. Lonzo is also a good rebounder and good size/length for a pg.

Tatum is and will always be better than Lonzo. There is nothing you can say that will redeem the mistake the Lakers made when they picked Lonzo instead of him.
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Old 03-12-2018, 04:17 PM   #273
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Simmons is a better defender, but Lonzo is looking like a good pickup for the Lakers. IG and Kuz added to the mix, and they could be a damn good team with two max players.

Simmons is not from this draft class. Entirely different draft class.
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Old 03-12-2018, 04:25 PM   #274
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Tatum is and will always be better than Lonzo. There is nothing you can say that will redeem the mistake the Lakers made when they picked Lonzo instead of him.

Tatum plays same position as Ingram and Kuzma. Not enough minutes to go around for all 3. It's just redundancy and still leaves a huge hole at pg if we drafted Tatum.

Lonzo is better playmaker, vastly better passer and has vastly better court vision than Tatum. Exactly what we needed at the point. D'Angelo didn't provide those things you can only find in true pointguards and didn't play good defense.
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Old 03-12-2018, 10:00 PM   #275
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Tatum plays same position as Ingram and Kuzma. Not enough minutes to go around for all 3. It's just redundancy and still leaves a huge hole at pg if we drafted Tatum.

Lonzo is better playmaker, vastly better passer and has vastly better court vision than Tatum. Exactly what we needed at the point. D'Angelo didn't provide those things you can only find in true pointguards and didn't play good defense.

You ALWAYS draft the best player and not what you need. Just like Boston did when they drafted Tatum, but already had Hayward and Brown.
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Old 03-12-2018, 11:26 PM   #276
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You ALWAYS draft the best player and not what you need. Just like Boston did when they drafted Tatum, but already had Hayward and Brown.

Hayward signed 2 weeks after the draft so they didn't already have Hayward when they drafted Tatum. Jaylen Brown can play 2-guard just as well as the 3.

Regardless, lets say you consider drafting Tatum. Who here expected Tatum to be this good? Nobody. Not even Celtics front-office. Most fans & scouts/analysts felt Lonzo would be the better player at time of the draft in June 2017. Everyone, including Celtics fans, were surprised when Tatum was drafted at the 3rd slot and were surprised to see him be that good out of the gate.

Besides, if we drafted Tatum then that would erase any reason to draft Kuzma in the 20s. Plus, Russell was traded only because we decided to draft Lonzo. So we would have drafted Tatum & Hart, and that's it. No Lonzo, no Kuzma, no Lopez, no KCP and we would have ended up keeping Russell+Mozgov, which means no spending money either in summer 2018. We would win fewer games most likely and still be wondering today if we even have a decent core to build the future around. Everything changes with just one little change to who we draft at 2.

People don't realize that when they play the 'if' game, they also have to consider the other dominos that fell in original scenario no longer falling in new scenario. You change 1 factor and other factors change as well in response. For instance, consider the 1984 draft. If Blazers or Rockets draft Jordan, does that mean Jordan still wins 6 championships? No, we don't know that because everything else changes as well to go with that simple change of Jordan being drafted earlier. The conference Jordan plays changes as well so we are talking about a whole different ballgame.

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