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Old 03-11-2018, 07:10 PM   #16
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Default Re: If you're still saying KD > Curry, you're ignorant

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I'm not sure... I think KD is probably the second best. But yeah, Curry is the best. As painful as it is to admit, Harden is 3.

LeBron is 4... can't justify anything more than that at this point... he's getting old. It is what it is.


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Old 03-11-2018, 07:11 PM   #17
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Ehh I can't do that yet until Harden proves it in the playoffs. Dude has had the GOAT meltdowns in the last few years in the playoffs. Lebron is at worst 3rd best. Harden has to prove more than either of those 3 superstars these years.

LeBron can't bring it for 40 minutes on defense AND be the entire Cavs' offense anymore... that's part of aging. It's not like any of these guys are better than he was at his peak. But the fact is he's getting old. He takes plays off defensively all the time and yells at people when he's the one out of position, lol.

LeBron is still one of the best players in the league and all out maximum effort for one game, he's still probably capable of being the best... but he's just not anymore. Consistency matters.

LeBron is my second favorite player behind Embiid now, but I mean.. gotta call it like it is. I've never done anything but, despite what some people will tell you.

Harden has been lighting it up in Houston this year. He's still flopping and cheaply drawing FTs but he's cut back a lot, and it's impressed me a lot as he's not being a complete bitch. I think with Paul to alleviate a lot of the pressure of it all being about Harden, you'll see him in a different light come playoff time, at least I think so.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:11 PM   #18
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Isn't Durant one of the favorites for DPOTY?
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:11 PM   #19
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KD is better than Curry as an overall basketball player.
On a bad to decent team, I’d pick KD 10/10 times.
But on an already great team, specifically the Warriors who are predicated on ball movement and 3 point shooting, Curry is more impactful.

I don’t think anyone argued KD was more valuable than Curry, just better.


Outside chef the dubs were only a "decent" team at the start of the '15 season... dray was off the bench second rounder, iggy averaged 9 ppg, and only somewhat star was klay. Curry turned that into a dynasty! Durant had harden westbrook and ibaka and turned it into less.


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Old 03-11-2018, 07:12 PM   #20
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Durant is the better individual player but despite this, he needs curry far more than curry needs kd
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:12 PM   #21
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And you would be wrong and a terrible GM. Curry can make bums better than any player in the league. Even on last year's down year, there was a chart that showed a stratospheric rise in how players play with him on the court. In most cases, the arrow on shooting % sky rocketed. Curry can average 30 and improve every player in the team and ensure they are all better. KD will improve the defense due to individual brilliance and that's it.

KD is not better than Curry, and he hasn't been for a few seasons. He can do more things than Steph, he's an elite defender, 2 way player beast and arguably top 3 of the best rim protectors in the league. But KD has many games I noticed when he hits 30-40 point games and the team barely squeaks by and wins. Steph does it, it's almost a win every single time. Because unlike any player in the league, when he eats he makes sure everyone else eats at the same.

KD is the 3rd best player in the league, Curry is the best.


You sure it's 5 losses? Pretty sure it's 4.
Very underrated point, so far this season

When Curry scores 30: 16-1, 9 wins by double digits, 1 by 3 points or less
When Curry scores 40: 3-0

When Durant scores 30: 10-6, 4 wins by double digits, 3 by 3 points or less
When Durant scores 40: 0-3
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:14 PM   #22
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Ehh I can't do that yet until Harden proves it in the playoffs. Dude has had the GOAT meltdowns in the last few years in the playoffs. Lebron is at worst 3rd best. Harden has to prove more than either of those 3 superstars these years.

Just wait for Harden in playoffs this year. It's gonna be a wake-up call for the haters.

His game is on a different level now...no one is stopping him getting to the basket. AND he has CP now. Just wait on it.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:14 PM   #23
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Just wait for Harden in playoffs this year. It's gonna be a wake-up call for the haters.

His game is on a different level now...no one is stopping him getting to basket. AND he has CP now. Just wait on it.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:15 PM   #24
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Just wait for Harden in playoffs this year. It's gonna be a wake-up call for the haters.

His game is on a different level now...no one is stopping him getting to basket. AND he has CP now. Just wait on it.

I think so too. I'm not sure Houston is getting it done against GS. I wouldn't be surprised either way but I'd go 60/40 Golden State.

Harden is without question the best at getting to the rim and finishing, now.

I think Harden can be a different guy in the playoffs because of Paul alleviating pressure.

Let me say this though... if Harden falters in the playoffs again, stick a fork in his ass. This is his last shot, realistically speaking, to prove himself. If he can't do it with Paul, I very much doubt he's ever going to do it as the man. If they get beat, they get beat. If they get beat because he choked his ass off, that's when you know it's over.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:17 PM   #25
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Curry is the best.

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You really think Warriors would rather lose Curry than Green?

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Draymond is the one guy that they can't lose... at all.

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Curry is the best player in the league.

This guy is so clueless he has literally mindfvcked himself. He says Curry is the best player in the league, but then goes on to claim that Draymond is the one guy on the team they can't lose at all.

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Old 03-11-2018, 07:17 PM   #26
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This guy is so clueless he has literally mindfvcked himself. He says Curry is the best player in the league, but then goes on to claim that Draymond is the one guy on the team they can't lose at all.


I know your simple brain can't comprehend it, so I'm not going to bother trying to explain it.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:20 PM   #27
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Basically all of Warriors' KD-less losses came when he was out the first time and they had to adjust back to it.

Since they're virtually unbeaten without him.

In fact Curry was their lowkey FMVP, nearly matched him statistically, I believe had him in +/- and generated many open looks for him.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:21 PM   #28
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There's no question that Bron, Steph, Harden, and KD are the 4 best players in the world right now.

These playoffs will do a lot to tell us what that order should be.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:22 PM   #29
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And you would be wrong and a terrible GM. Curry can make bums better than any player in the league. Even on last year's down year, there was a chart that showed a stratospheric rise in how players play with him on the court. In most cases, the arrow on shooting % sky rocketed. Curry can average 30 and improve every player in the team and ensure they are all better. KD will improve the defense due to individual brilliance and that's it.

KD is not better than Curry, and he hasn't been for a few seasons. He can do more things than Steph, he's an elite defender, 2 way player beast and arguably top 3 of the best rim protectors in the league. But KD has many games I noticed when he hits 30-40 point games and the team barely squeaks by and wins. Steph does it, it's almost a win every single time. Because unlike any player in the league, when he eats he makes sure everyone else eats at the same.
Based on what exactly? When has Curry proven he can be great without mourns great team.
Look at what he accomplish before GS was an ATG team. Nothing. He didnít respond each superstar status until Klay and Dray became all star level players and GS acquired one of the best supporting casts in the league.

As OVERALL players itís lebron/KD at the top, and Curry at a somewhat close 3rd. He hasnít proven what KD and lebron have.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:23 PM   #30
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There's no question that Bron, Steph, Harden, and KD are the 4 best players in the world right now.

These playoffs will do a lot to tell us what that order should be.

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