David Robinson vs Patrick Ewing

[SmoothRED]

Who was greater and who was better? ShaqAttack is against Robinson...again...what a surprise. That being said, I took Robinson. He was better at Ewing at everything. Better defender, better passer, more skilled, better shooter, better at everything really and he was more successful.

I'll let you guys finish it up.

[magnax1]

Lol..... is your only purpose on here to piss off shaqattack?
Well, I'd rather have David. The only thing He wasn't better at was post play, but Ewing ended up settling for Jumpers more often then not in the second half of his career.

[SmoothRED]

Lol..... is your only purpose on here to piss off shaqattack?
Well, I'd rather have David. The only thing He wasn't better at was post play, but Ewing ended up settling for Jumpers more often then not in the second half of his career.

He's so stubborn, so I'll let him be stubborn and then he'll realize that probably 30% of the people here and I'm being nice will vouch with him and pick Ewing. It's hard to go up against David, he was in MVP contention every single ****ing year. Ewing wasn't.

[magnax1]

He's so stubborn, so I'll let him be stubborn and then he'll realize that probably 30% of the people here and I'm being nice will vouch with him and pick Ewing. It's hard to go up against David, he was in MVP contention every single ****ing year. Ewing wasn't.

That was one confusing sentence, but Robinson was definitely better.

[SmoothRED]

[CODE]PlayoffsGlossary ▪
Rk Player From To G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% MP PTS TRB AST
1 Patrick Ewing* 1988 1992 38 1480 339 704 1 4 191 244 95 409 94 36 87 87 154 870 .482 .250 .783 38.9 22.9 10.8 2.5
2 David Robinson* 1990 1996 53 2084 445 911 1 8 382 525 183 623 156 67 165 153 200 1273 .488 .125 .728 39.3 24.0 11.8 2.9

Playoffs AdvancedGlossary ▪
Rk Player From To G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS
1 Patrick Ewing* 1988 1992 38 1480 20.5 .536 .482 7.5 26.0 16.5 11.7 1.3 4.0 9.7 27.0 111 107 2.0 2.2 4.2
2 David Robinson* 1990 1996 53 2084 24.0 .557 .489 10.2 23.6 17.1 13.3 1.7 5.5 11.8 27.6 113 101 4.2 4.0 8.2[/CODE]

Numbers for the first 7 seasons for both players in the playoffs. Thanks to my man on another site.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Pasted from another thread.

Look at Ewing's big playoff performances.

In 1990, he led his team from down 0-2 to the more experienced, more talented Celtics with 3 straight victories. That included 33 points and 19 rebounds in game 3, 44 points, 13 rebounds, 7 steals and 5 assists in game 4 and 31 points, 8 rebounds and 10 assists in game 5 to close out the series in Boston. Down 0-2 vs the defending champion Pistons in round 2, he had 45 points and 13 rebounds.

In 1992, he had a great series vs Detroit which included 31/19/3/3 in a deciding game 5. He had 34/16/5/6 vs the Bulls in game 1 as well. And facing elimination vs the much more talented, defending champion Bulls, Ewing with a bad ankle sprain scored 27 points to extend the series to a 7th game.

In 1993 he was very good throughout the playoffs averaging 25.5 ppg and 11 rpg on 51% shooting, but he fell to a more talented Bulls team in 6 games in the ECF. In 1994, he had 36/14/3/5 to closeout the Hornets, had a 24/22/7/5 game to closeout the series in game 7 and he had a monster 25/12/8 game to give the Knicks a 3-2 lead in the finals.

In the deciding game 5, a badly injured 36 year old Ewing also outplayed a prime Alono Mourning who had won DPOY and finished 2nd in MVP voting. He outscored and outrebounded Mourning while shooting a higher %, leading the Knicks in points and rbeounds and helping them become the second 8 seed to defeat a 1 seed in NBA history.

Now, compare him to Robinson who was 2-10 in elimination games in his career. To put that in perspective, Ewing won more elimination games than that in one series vs a more talented team in 1990.

In fact, Robinson also lost 6 playoff series with homecourt advantage.

Ewing, had the statistical dominance as well(29/11/4/2 on 55% shooting in 1990), but he also had more heart, toughness and leadership. Robinson, on the otherhand, had his leadership questioned in the 1996 playoffs by Avery Johnson and later by Dennis Rodman. Ewing was every bit as good of a defensive anchor IMO, comparable as a shot blocker and rbeounder at his peak and as good as a scorer at his peak. Plus, Ewing was the better low post player.

Robinson is also the same guy who padded his stats on the last day of the season for the scoring title, even with playoff position secure, and he went on to get destroyed by the lower seeded Utah Jazz in the playoffs in 4 games. He averaged just 20/10 on 41% shooting.

Robinson's stats dropped from 21.1 ppg, 10.6 rpg, 3.0 bpg, 2.5 apg and 1.4 spg on 51.8% shooting(73.6 FT%) in his regular season career to 18.1 ppg, 10.6 rpg, 2.5 bpg, 2.3 apg and 1.2 spg on 47.9% shooting(70.8 FT%).

Ewing was a flawed player, no question about it. But it's no coincidence that he got farther in the playoffs as the leader of his team and won more playoff series than Robinson did.

[SmoothRED]

Better at everything? Ewing was a better defender and a better anchor. A better franchise player as well.

Ewing any day.

Yeah, let's count the DPOY awards. Oh well....Robinson has One and Ewing has Zero. Look, I'm not saying Ewing sucked, he's a HOF legend, but Robinson was just better.

[robertshaw_1]

Give me Ewing.

[Juges8932]

I'll take Robinson.

[SmoothRED]

Camby is a better defender than Ewing too... you're right. DPOY is the pinnacle of the defensive player argument.

Robinson wishes he had Ewing's defensive skills.

Robinson won a DPOY during his time when Ewing was playing as well. Who did Camby win DPOY over? And it's quite clear he got it because of his BPG stat. Robinson won it with Olajuwon, Jordan, Pippen, Glove, Ewing, etc. tons of great defenders.

Robinson also was one of the few players to ever average 2 SPG and 2 BPG in a season.

[ILLsmak]

I'd take DRob as my PF, Ewing as my C.

-Smak

[1987_Lakers]

SmoothRED = Rocketsgreatness?

[EroticVanilla]

SmoothRED = Rocketsgreatness?

Thats what I was thinking, it would explain why he hates ShaqAttack, who's a pretty big Dwight fan.

[ScolaFan]

David - 2 rings
Patrick - 0, zero, nada, nothing

David finished the finals
Patrick watched from the bench.

David - great human being
Patrick - nice guy

Rings mean everything.

My pick - David hands down

[Qdouble]

Statistically in head to head matchups from 92-96 (their "prime" years), Robinson spanked Ewing. But then again, statistically from 92-96, Robinson also seemed to play Shaq the best, but I would choose Hakeem or Ewing over D-Rob to play Shaq in any of those years.