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Re: When in the hell did the BerenstEin Bears become the BerenstAin Bears
Originally Posted by gigantes
well, i think professions as surnames generally predated the recent diasporas.
not to mention, people's surnames also commonly referred to the area they came from or whom they were descended from. "steinberg" for example means literally "stone mountain" which one might guess referred to a large mountain without much vegetation. in fact in comes from an old saxon family and region.
"stein" alone also referred to the brewing trade and masonic trades, so we're probably talking about a lot of different professions that had that word in their name, both germans, jewish-germans and other settlers to germany or countries with strong german influence, like norway.
"bernstein / berenstein" also seems to be a made-up name altho it does have a jewish connection.
True points indeed.
Also interestingly at the time Germany was transitioning from trade based surnames to continuous family surnames, some people were actually able to buy their name, as was the case with many people eventually named "Rosenfeld" (field of roses) Goldberg (Golden mountain) etc.
This is a practice still in use today, by such esteemed world figures as Chad Ocho Cinco and Metta World Peace.
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Re: When in the hell did the BerenstEin Bears become the BerenstAin Bears
Originally Posted by Dee O Gee
It never was "Bernstein"
Look it up
I meant berenstein. Could have sworn thats how it was referred to universally throughout my childhood.
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Re: When in the hell did the BerenstEin Bears become the BerenstAin Bears
I don't understand. If it really was "stein" shouldn't it be pretty ****ing easy to find a pic of an old copy of those books with that spelling?
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Re: When in the hell did the BerenstEin Bears become the BerenstAin Bears
Their first book. Notice how it says "The Berenstain Bears"
It's always been spelled like that.
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Re: When in the hell did the BerenstEin Bears become the BerenstAin Bears
Originally Posted by Dee O Gee
Their first book. Notice how it says "The Berenstain Bears"
It's always been spelled like that.
I'm not doubting that it was always spelled Berenstain, the problem is that the majority of the population(by a considerable amount) swear that it was Berenstein. The universal pronunciation is stine or steen, neither of which could come from the surname suffix stain. Why is this?
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Re: When in the hell did the BerenstEin Bears become the BerenstAin Bears
Originally Posted by Dee O Gee
Their first book. Notice how it says "The Berenstain Bears"
It's always been spelled like that.
looks like that's the kindle edition.
if you can find pics of the original editions from the early 60's, that would help. it would need to have the inside page with the publishers date scanned, too.
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Re: When in the hell did the BerenstEin Bears become the BerenstAin Bears
Originally Posted by gigantes
looks like that's the kindle edition.
if you can find pics of the original editions from the early 60's, that would help. it would need to have the inside page with the publishers date scanned, too.
You are bidding on a lot containing ONE Book. The book is a RARE, Hardcover in DJ, First Edition of The Big Honey Hunt by Stanley and Janice Berenstain.
Book was published by Beginner Books/ Random House in 1962, presumed First Edition.
Book is in Good + condition with some edgewear. DJ is in Good condition with general used wear. Still pretty nice.
So when did Janice start going by Jan?
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Re: When in the hell did the BerenstEin Bears become the BerenstAin Bears
if that book's the real deal, then it looks like the case is closed by ISH standards.
interesting case of large numbers of ppl having a cognitive bias. maybe like how you can jumble (or omit) inner letters, yet quickly understand a word by the end letters and the overall pattern.
btw, looks like there's over 100+ variations of bernstein / berenstain / etc. altho some of them have different sources, i think.
one entry said that berenstain means "burning" + "stone" in german, another word for "amber." they didn't understand amber's actual source at the time.
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Re: When in the hell did the BerenstEin Bears become the BerenstAin Bears
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Re: When in the hell did the BerenstEin Bears become the BerenstAin Bears
Is this for real?
l have the entire collection and it is Berenstein Bears.
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Re: When in the hell did the BerenstEin Bears become the BerenstAin Bears
Originally Posted by 9erempiree
Is this for real?
l have the entire collection and it is Berenstein Bears.
Pics? Go check your books.
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