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07-25-2012, 10:38 PM
#616
Re: All-Time NBA Players' Peaks Draft
Originally Posted by Snoop_Cat
I have StateofMind + SuperPippen. Sorry, don't have time for a longer post like the other two at the moment. I can do it tomorrow though if you want.
just an excuse for me to post that .gif lol.
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07-25-2012, 10:51 PM
#617
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: All-Time NBA Players' Peaks Draft
1987_Lakers, StateOfMind12, iamgine, & SuperPippen advance to the 2nd round.
2nd Round Matchups
1987_Lakers
PG - '72 Walt Frazier | '92 John Stockton (Will have Frazier starting this series for defense)
SG - '03 Tracy McGrady | '78 David Thompson (Plan to have T-Mac on LBJ & Frazier on Kobe to start)
SF - '86 Larry Bird | '06 Shawn Marion
PF - '87 Kevin McHale | '10 Pau Gasol
C - '77 Bill Walton | '85 Mark Eaton
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Anti-Hero
PG - '12 LeBron James | '90 Kevin Johnson
SG - '06 Kobe Bryant | '92 Joe Dumars
SF - '12 Kevin Durant | 70 Connie Hawkins
PF - '00 A. Mourning | '99 Cris Webber
C - '07 Yao Ming | 76 Dave Cowens
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StateofMind12
PG - '08 Chris Paul | '96 Penny Hardaway
SG - '92 Clyde Drexler | '92 Mitch Richmond
SF - '05 Bruce Bowen | '06 Paul Pierce
PF - '97 Karl Malone | '06 Elton Brand
C - '94 Hakeem Olajuwon| '97 Dikembe Mutombo
VS
SuperPippen
PG - '89 Mark Price / '82 Dennis Johnson
SG - '90 Michael Jordan / '01 Allen Iverson
SF - '93 Charles Barkley / '06 Ray Allen
PF - '82 M. Malone / 79 Artis Gilmore
C - '11 Dwight Howard / '82 Robert Parish
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iamgine
PG Magic Johnson / Sidney Moncrief
SG Dominique Wilkins / Michael Cooper
SF Dennis Rodman / Chris Mullin
PF David Robinson / Ralph Sampson
C Patrick Ewing / Wes Unseld
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Legends66NBA7
PG - 96 Gary Payton | 92 Terry Porter
SG - '05 Manu Ginobili | 86 Alvin Robertson
SF - '94 Scottie Pippen | 83 Bobby Jones
PF - 96 Shawn Kemp | 02 Rasheed Wallace
C - '77 Kareem | '72 Nate Thurmond
Last edited by 1987_Lakers; 07-25-2012 at 11:41 PM.
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07-25-2012, 10:57 PM
#618
Re: All-Time NBA Players' Peaks Draft
I want my lineup to look more official, so here it is.
PG - '08 Chris Paul | '96 Penny Hardaway
SG - '96 Mitch Richmond | '92 Clyde Drexler
SF - '06 Paul Pierce | '05 Bruce Bowen
PF - '97 Karl Malone | '06 Elton Brand
C - '94 Hakeem Olajuwon | '97 Dikembe Mutombo
Not a judge but my picks are 1987_Lakers and iamgine. I just wanted to throw my 2 cents out there but it is not like it matters considering how I'm not a judge.
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07-25-2012, 11:23 PM
#619
Re: All-Time NBA Players' Peaks Draft
I'm actually considering starting Bowen over Richmond to guard MJ but I'm not sure. I suppose it is more about the minutes you play than about who starts. I'm also thinking about starting Drexler at SG/SF over Pierce.
I think the Pierce-Barkley/SF battle is going to be huge though. Neither have any chance guarding one another.
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07-25-2012, 11:31 PM
#620
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: All-Time NBA Players' Peaks Draft
Originally Posted by Anti Hero
I have to many killers on my team, too athletic. You double Kobe, you gotta leave Durant or Lebron open. My bigs match up against his. We're capable of D'ing up his squad. Lebron developed post moves this season, he can easily post up any of his guards. We're a mismatch every which way you look.
LBJ/Kobe/Durant are matchup nightmare, but I think I got the more balanced team. In terms of talent Bird & '03 McGrady are on the same level as LBJ/Kobe. I also think I got a better frontline in Walton & McHale. All due respect, Yao & Mourning isn't a scary frontline. This is a matchup where my last round selection Shawn Marion becomes valuable, he can guard LBJ/Kobe/Durant effectively.
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07-25-2012, 11:33 PM
#621
Re: All-Time NBA Players' Peaks Draft
Starting lineup will change for this matchup
PG - CP3
SG - Drexler
SF - Bowen
PF - Malone
C - Olajuwon
Bowen guards MJ
Drexler guards Barkley
Malone on Malone
Olajuwon on Howard
Paul guards Price obviously.
My 2nd unit will be
PG - Penny
SG - Richmond
SF - Pierce
PF - Brand
C - Mutombo
Edit - Nevermind, I would rather start Malone instead of Mutombo. Bowen and Drexler over Richmond and Pierce stands though. Sorry.
Last edited by StateOfMind12; 07-25-2012 at 11:37 PM.
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07-26-2012, 12:35 AM
#622
NBA sixth man of the year
Re: All-Time NBA Players' Peaks Draft
Originally Posted by StateOfMind12
We should just have 5 judges instead since it appears the people who voted in this want nothing to do with deciding which teams are better and would win.
Snoop_Cat
L. Kizzle
DaHezzy
two more? Gifted Mind and RedBlackAttack? magic choingson?
Shyt, I would have done it.
I feel slighted since I had already pick alonzo to win. Prolly why 1987 didn't notify me
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07-26-2012, 06:38 AM
#623
Re: All-Time NBA Players' Peaks Draft
I'm going to change my starting lineup vs imagine if he keeps that lineup the same.
PG - Payton
SG - Pippen
SF - Jones
PF - Thurmond
C - Kareem
Bench
PG - Porter
SG - Robertson
SF - Manu
PF - Kemp
C - Wallace
I think that's a better matchup for me, defensively at least. Jones and Pippen can guard both Wilkins and Rodman, and could even swing and guard Magic, for spells, too.
My bench also looks good, scoring wise and defensively too.
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07-26-2012, 06:50 PM
#624
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: All-Time NBA Players' Peaks Draft
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07-26-2012, 07:45 PM
#625
Re: All-Time NBA Players' Peaks Draft
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
1987_Lakers, StateOfMind12, iamgine, & SuperPippen advance to the 2nd round.
2nd Round Matchups
1987_Lakers
PG - '72 Walt Frazier | '92 John Stockton (Will have Frazier starting this series for defense)
SG - '03 Tracy McGrady | '78 David Thompson (Plan to have T-Mac on LBJ & Frazier on Kobe to start)
SF - '86 Larry Bird | '06 Shawn Marion
PF - '87 Kevin McHale | '10 Pau Gasol
C - '77 Bill Walton | '85 Mark Eaton
VS
Anti-Hero
PG - '12 LeBron James | '90 Kevin Johnson
SG - '06 Kobe Bryant | '92 Joe Dumars
SF - '12 Kevin Durant | 70 Connie Hawkins
PF - '00 A. Mourning | '99 Cris Webber
C - '07 Yao Ming | 76 Dave Cowens
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StateofMind12
PG - '08 Chris Paul | '96 Penny Hardaway
SG - '92 Clyde Drexler | '92 Mitch Richmond
SF - '05 Bruce Bowen | '06 Paul Pierce
PF - '97 Karl Malone | '06 Elton Brand
C - '94 Hakeem Olajuwon| '97 Dikembe Mutombo
VS
SuperPippen
PG - '89 Mark Price / '82 Dennis Johnson
SG - '90 Michael Jordan / '01 Allen Iverson
SF - '93 Charles Barkley / '06 Ray Allen
PF - '82 M. Malone / 79 Artis Gilmore
C - '11 Dwight Howard / '82 Robert Parish
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iamgine
PG Magic Johnson / Sidney Moncrief
SG Dominique Wilkins / Michael Cooper
SF Dennis Rodman / Chris Mullin
PF David Robinson / Ralph Sampson
C Patrick Ewing / Wes Unseld
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Legends66NBA7
PG - 96 Gary Payton | 92 Terry Porter
SG - '05 Manu Ginobili | 86 Alvin Robertson
SF - '94 Scottie Pippen | 83 Bobby Jones
PF - 96 Shawn Kemp | 02 Rasheed Wallace
C - '77 Kareem | '72 Nate Thurmond
1987_Lakers wins - To be quite honest, Anti-Hero's front court is fairly mediocre considering the fact that it's an all time draft. Frazier is an all time great - top 30/40 in my book, but he's never guarded anyone close to LeBron's overall athleticism, size and skill and would likely get torched despite his accolades. That being said, Bird at this point is straight up better than KD, in fact I'd almost say Durant is potentially a poor fit because he doesn't provide much outside of scoring and in a set-up like this, you need guys who are multi-dimensional. and 03 McGrady can score with Bryant with having the athleticism to match up.
StateOfMind wins - To start, though Howard and Parish are both good anchors, Hakeem would just torch them on both ends (look what he did to better players in Robinson and Ewing). As far as the match ups of the Malones go, I'm someone who thinks that they're both overrated. Karl Malone was very dependent on Stockton which works in his favor with Chris Paul and that he's got guys who can space and work off the ball in Ritchmond and Bowen. That's going to help him as Hakeem can take it down low and dominate and I do think Bowen would do a good job on MJ.
With Moses Malone, I think he's better than Karl Malone, but Karl Malone might be the one guy with enough brute strength to keep him off the offensive glass. With MM's offensive boards, it's important to remember that a lot of them were self-rebounds that he did to get himself the ball back in a better spot and he was a huge black hole - who knows how that's going to fly with Barkley and Jordan. Price is a fantastic shooter but CP3 is an amazing (albeit, overrated defender). The key player for SuperPippen is Barkley as he absolutely destroys Drexler or whoever is guarding him and Jordan is of course, Jordan. However, in the end I think SoM's better front court and much better back court depth carries him over.
iamgine wins. Very close, but sometimes the NBA comes down to match ups - for instance, I would've had Legends's team beating StateofMind's team, but I might potentially have SoM's team beating iamgine (not saying for that one).
Their front courts are more or less a wash - Kareem skyhooks over Ewing all day but I think Robinson's speed and athleticism can't be matched by the more hulking Thurmond. But when talking about their backups, I think the combination of Unseld and Sampson just gives iamgine's team the overall edge. Great guard match ups, Scottie would hurt Wilkens and his willing passing would be perfect for a team with Kareem. Of course Magic is also a tremendous passer and I don't think Payton would be as great on him as he was on let's say Jordan because Magic is a playmaker and doesn't have the score first mentality that would be much more mitigated by Payton.
The defense between the back courts is crazy - Payton, Pippen, Moncrief, Cooper AND Robertson? This is going to come down to who can score down low and though of course Kareem will get his, ultimately the duo of Robinson and Ewing with Johnson's overall on court guiding pushes them to a slight win.
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07-27-2012, 03:03 PM
#626
Re: All-Time NBA Players' Peaks Draft
Would like the other judges call on this.
Plus, I'm down already.
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