How Is exactly Tim Duncan over Kobe All-time again?

[HOoopCityJones]

Serious question.


Here I am reading through all this shit that says Kobe is the player of the decade along with the Lakers being the Team of the decade, The NBA site itself blasting Timmy for losing in the 2004 Olympics

"Summer Olympics loss, 2004. A team coached by Larry Brown and led by Duncan, LeBron, Allen Iverson and Carmelo Anthony would beat anyone. Except Argentina. And Lithuania. And Puerto Rico, which won by 19 and shattered the USA's dominance in Olympic hoops. While the international competition was slowly catching up even before the Athens Games, it was still shocking to see the USA taking a beating and the bronze."

Just for comparison sake look what they had to say about the redeem Team.

After a disastrous performance at the 2004 Olympics in Greece, USA Basketball, in desperation, turned over the selection process for the next U.S. men's basketball team to Jerry Colangelo, the former Phoenix Suns owner. Colangelo was the one and only voice, determined to pick a team of players that not only wanted to play in the Olympics, but would commit for three years in preparation.

Colangelo believed the best players, given time, could become a true team, something that hadn't happened in previous international competitions. After Kobe Bryant and LeBron James committed to play, most of the NBA's other superstars fell in line. Under coach Mike Krzyzewski, the U.S. team became a defensive power, and was led offensively by Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony and Chris Paul, with James, Bryant and Jason Kidd filling in whatever cracks developed. The U.S. team beat all comers before facing a tough Spain team -- with NBA players Pau Gasol and Rudy Fernandez, and future NBAer Ricky Rubio -- in the gold medal game.

The Americans led. The Spaniards rallied. The Americans went back ahead. The Spaniards wouldn't go away. But finally, a four-point play by Bryant and a three from Wade kept Spain at arm's length for good, and the "Redeem Team" (that year's answer to the 1992 "Dream Team") had brought the gold back to the United States.



http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...ers/index.html

http://www.nba.com/alldecade/vote13/




http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...nts/index.html

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...ade/index.html



http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...tip/index.html



Yet, all I can think about are the idiots at ISH who think Duncan is the better player because he played a role on a 2014 championship Team where he was well removed as the main centerpiece, mind you this is no knock on Duncan, who is definitely a Top 6 or 7 player all time, but just the notion that his fifth ring somehow puts him over Kobe is pretty laughable.

The NBA makes Kobe's case better than I can, so if you're not illiterate, take a read through the links and see for yourself.

I'll leave you with this excerpt specifically.

"Not quite Magic, not quite Bird and not quite Jordan, but for overall impact on the game, Kobe rules the decade. He began it as a teen idol who made basketball cool. His image took a hit after legal problems in Colorado. And then, in large part because his basketball skills are so supreme, he recovered it all: endorsements, box office and another title, his fourth this decade."


That was before his fifth.

Serious discussion here, because I wanna hear the case he has when even their own league sees it differently.

[keep-itreal]

he didn't shoot 6 for 24 in the nba finals like that other chucker

[HOoopCityJones]

he didn't shoot 6 for 24 in the nba finals like that other chucker

He did miss two point blank lay ups over Shane Battier though.

Don't even get me started on 07 or 05.

[sportjames23]

This is gonna be a good thread. Especially when kenneth and 9erempire see this.

#popcorngif

[Uncle Drew]

Because he is a better basketball player.

[Smoke117]

Tim Duncan > Kobe Bryant

[Fire Colangelo]

had his team in contention every single year in the league. the same cannot be said for kobe

[HOoopCityJones]

Because he is a better basketball player.

Tim Duncan > Kobe Bryant

Since we're using arbitrary measurements like 6-24.

[HOoopCityJones]

had his team in contention every single year in the league. the same cannot be said for kobe

Kobe's repeated multiple times. Closest Duncan's come to that is trying to reprimand the greatest collective choke job in NBA history.

[gilalizard]

LeBron, Allen Iverson and Carmelo Anthony

These three egos on the same team together? Fuggedaboutit. They'd kill anything.

Hell, in the next Olympics they assigned Kidd to babysit LeBron to keep him alone from torpedoing the team with his self-centered immaturity.

[HOoopCityJones]

These three egos on the same team together? Fuggedaboutit. They'd kill anything.

Hell, in the next Olympics they assigned Kidd to babysit LeBron to keep him alone from torpedoing the team with his self-centered immaturity.

Kobe's a Team killer too remember? The worst of all according to some here, yet the Team thrived once he joined. You guys have these tired half assed arguments and you'll get the same type of responses in return until I read a serious one.

[Fire Colangelo]

Since we're using arbitrary measurements like 6-24.

how is 6-24 arbitrary wtf lol

[HOoopCityJones]

how is 6-24 arbitrary wtf lol

Because it's one ****ing game. Idiots who present it pretend like it was his average for the entire series. It's not even an argument.

Everyone has bad games. How can such a thing be measured?

[Nowitness]

Great post OP.

Kobe is a better scorer, leader, defender, post player, winner, passer, entertainer... Better everything.

When Kobe gets carried to titles like Duncan did with Tony Parker and Manu, then we can talk. Like he was when he averaged less points than the number one option did rebounds.

When Duncan doesn't miss the playoffs at his peak and lose in the first round the year after, then we can talk.

When Duncan doesn't need an All-NBA big on his team to win, then we can talk.

When Duncan doesn't cause in house arguments, demands trades/new team mates and hog the ball, then we can talk.

When Duncan can time and time again shoot efficient not only in the clutch but throughout an entire game, an entire season even, then we can talk.

But most of all, when Duncan doesn't rape women, then we can talk.

[stephanieg]

It's a case of Kobe being overrated more than anything, but you generally take big over small. More significant impact and easier to build around.