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    And hate to break it to you liberal and conservative nutjobs.

    You guys follow the same damn factions; your president is nothing more than a spokesperson for this faction, and there is absolutely no difference amongst the 2 parties.

    Why?

    You both follow the same agendas. If you are both so goddamn different, then why the f*ck do you guys support the same sh*t? I'm not talking about abortion, immigration, or whatever social crap used to disguise the true agendas, I'm talking about foreign policies, greed in capitalism, over spending which keeps the poor poorer in order to protect the interest of the rich, etc.

    The both of you are such tools. Stop hating each other and unite for a common cause. The root of the problem is not within the values of liberalism or conservatism you have been brainwashed at birth to believe and upheld, but it is simply the rich having a field day screwing the poor.

    They are only allowed to do this because you party wh*res are too busy fighting each other over a bunch of illegal mexicans , unborn children, healthcare, and a ton of meaningless crap (which conveniently btw, you won't ever find a resolution to) to truly care about what the cause and root of all your problems are (which is the reason why the country is so f*cked up in the first place).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth
    Never heard the term "campus culture" before. Does it essentially mean college liberals?

    As for the 2nd part, I think the 'attack' (used as a summary of my assumption of what you are getting at) of liberals on Christians is mostly geared towards Christians who use their faith as a justification politically to oppress people. This is why you don't see many 'attacks' on on Jews, Muslims, Hindus, etc, because those groups are minorities in the United States, and therefore don't have as much power in the political system to oppress other groups (namely the LGBT community). However, on a more individual basis, when you see Jews, Muslims, Hindus, etc using their faith as justification to disapprove of the LGBT population, you will quickly see liberals battle them for using their faith against people.
    lol, Muslims are using their faith to oppress people all over the world.

    LBGT people get an easy ride over here - all they have to deal with is disapproval (and people have the right to disapprove of whatever they want). In Africa and the Middle East, by Muslims and Christians alike, they are treated like dog shit, along with women.

    Typical provincialism of the socially concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dresta
    lol, Muslims are using their faith to oppress people all over the world.

    LBGT people get an easy ride over here - all they have to deal with is disapproval (and people have the right to disapprove of whatever they want). In Africa and the Middle East, by Muslims and Christians alike, they are treated like dog shit, along with women.

    Typical provincialism of the socially concerned.
    No shit.

    I was specifically speaking of people within our country (hence me talking about them as minorities). You see liberal websites being appalled by foreign countries that use their Muslim beliefs to oppress people all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamRAMBO24
    And hate to break it to you liberal and conservative nutjobs.

    You guys follow the same damn factions; your president is nothing more than a spokesperson for this faction, and there is absolutely no difference amongst the 2 parties.

    Why?

    You both follow the same agendas. If you are both so goddamn different, then why the f*ck do you guys support the same sh*t? I'm not talking about abortion, immigration, or whatever social crap used to disguise the true agendas, I'm talking about foreign policies, greed in capitalism, over spending which keeps the poor poorer in order to protect the interest of the rich, etc.

    The both of you are such tools. Stop hating each other and unite for a common cause. The root of the problem is not within the values of liberalism or conservatism you have been brainwashed at birth to believe and upheld, but it is simply the rich having a field day screwing the poor.

    They are only allowed to do this because you party wh*res are too busy fighting each other over a bunch of illegal mexicans , unborn children, healthcare, and a ton of meaningless crap (which conveniently btw, you won't ever find a resolution to) to truly care about what the cause and root of all your problems are (which is the reason why the country is so f*cked up in the first place).
    It isn't just here: in the UK there are 3 parties that are exactly the same

    And yet you get so many morons proclaiming David Cameron evil (for making minor and inconsequential cuts) while lining up behind Ed Miliband and expecting him to bring about some kind of change - and the cycle of bullshit continues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSkoolball#52






    But they can be so easily controlled with the word











    What's the difference?
    The difference is that Barack Obama actually exists. I'm Canadian and a far left liberal, and I personally do not like Obama because he is a conservative. The guy is a great speaker though, and I'm ashamed to admit that I thought he would be a lot better than he's turned out to be.

    You're right though, OldSkoolBall, about most liberals being afraid to say anything bad about Islam. A lot of them will even praise the religion because they're afraid they will be seen as racist if they come off as anti-Islam. I personally trash Islam all the time, as to me it is clearly the worst religion currently.

    Why do I despise the word "faith"? I despise the word because faith is the worst reason to believe something. You're just believing what your parents passed down to you, and you have no good reason to believe that what has been passed down to them and now to you is actually true. Humans have believed in tens of thousands or maybe more gods, and it is your belief that just by chance you happened to be born to parents that believe in the right god. If you're right, having faith and accepting what your parents tell you has been a ticket to Hell for most people that have ever lived, because their parents happened to believe in the wrong god. You have no more evidence that Yahweh is god than I have evidence that Peter Pan created the universe. Peter Pan is my God. If you just had faith, OldSkoolBall, you would see that Peter Pan is God. Why can't you just have faith OldSkoolBall? Now do you understand why we have a problem with faith?

    Why is your faith any better than the faith of a Muslim or Hindu? If I make an extraordinary claim about something not related to religion, you're going to ask me to provide evidence for the claim I am making before you accept it, no? Why is it that in normal, everyday life, you don't accept things people tell you on faith alone, but when it comes to your God, you need no good reason or evidence to accept the claim? Why does your critical thinking go out the window when it comes to religion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth
    No shit.

    I was specifically speaking of people within our country (hence me talking about them as minorities). You see liberal websites being appalled by foreign countries that use their Muslim beliefs to oppress people all the time.
    meh, most feminists seem more concerned about getting women into boardrooms by force than espousing the plights of women suffering in Muslim countries lest they offend one of their precious minorities.

    It was the same when a mad Iranian cleric declared a fatwa on Salman Rushdie for publishing the Satanic Verses: countless 'liberals' lined up not to denounce the fatwa, but to condemn Rushdie for lacking cultural sensitivity.

    Many think that Muslim barbarism is simply a result of Western imperialism and cultural insensitivity

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamRAMBO24
    And hate to break it to you liberal and conservative nutjobs.

    You guys follow the same damn factions; your president is nothing more than a spokesperson for this faction, and there is absolutely no difference amongst the 2 parties.
    You realize there is a difference between liberal and Democrat, as well as conservative and Republican, right?

    I am liberal (surprise surprise, I know), but I'm not a Democrat because I despise the 2 party system for the reasons you mention. I'm sort of like a radical who believes that the system needs tore down and rebuilt (actually sounds like you, but you tend to sound off from a more radical-conservative side), but I don't identify as radical either, because I don't do anything to try to change the political system (I'm too lazy to start a revolution).

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveRings
    The difference is that Barack Obama actually exists. I'm Canadian and a far left liberal, and I personally do not like Obama because he is a conservative. The guy is a great speaker though, and I'm ashamed to admit that I thought he would be a lot better than he's turned out to be.

    You're right though, OldSkoolBall, about most liberals being afraid to say anything bad about Islam. A lot of them will even praise the religion because they're afraid they will be seen as racist if they come off as anti-Islam. I personally trash Islam all the time, as to me it is clearly the worst religion currently.

    Why do I despise the word "faith"? I despise the word because faith is the worst reason to believe something. You're just believing what your parents passed down to you, and you have no good reason to believe that what has been passed down to them and now to you is actually true. Humans have believed in tens of thousands or maybe more gods, and it is your belief that just by chance you happened to be born to parents that believe in the right god. If you're right, having faith and accepting what your parents tell you has been a ticket to Hell for most people that have ever lived, because their parents happened to believe in the wrong god. You have no more evidence that Yahweh is god than I have evidence that Peter Pan created the universe. Peter Pan is my God. If you just had faith, OldSkoolBall, you would see that Peter Pan is God. Why can't you just have faith OldSkoolBall? Now do you understand why we have a problem with faith?

    Why is your faith any better than the faith of a Muslim or Hindu? If I make an extraordinary claim about something not related to religion, you're going to ask me to provide evidence for the claim I am making before you accept it, no? Why is it that in normal, everyday life, you don't accept things people tell you on faith alone, but when it comes to your God, you need no good reason or evidence to accept the claim? Why does your critical thinking go out the window when it comes to religion?


    Nice oxymoron right thurr...

    And i'm not even sure OldSkoolBall is religious btw, so you may have wasted a lot of breath there. He was just pointing out some hypocrisy, and i think the comparison is quite apt, though not perfect: check out those Obama rallies and they don't look all that different from a rapturous religious congregation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveRings
    Why is your faith any better than the faith of a Muslim or Hindu? If I make an extraordinary claim about something not related to religion, you're going to ask me to provide evidence for the claim I am making before you accept it, no? Why is it that in normal, everyday life, you don't accept things people tell you on faith alone, but when it comes to your God, you need no good reason or evidence to accept the claim? Why does your critical thinking go out the window when it comes to religion?
    Because Science cannot possibly unveil all truths. Until Science becomes the end all be all of knowledge, then there will always be different avenues the human mind will look to explain the natural causes they feel in their everyday lives.

    William James said it best:

    If faith is not real, then why are so many people drawn to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth
    You realize there is a difference between liberal and Democrat, as well as conservative and Republican, right?

    I am liberal (surprise surprise, I know), but I'm not a Democrat because I despise the 2 party system for the reasons you mention. I'm sort of like a radical who believes that the system needs tore down and rebuilt (actually sounds like you, but you tend to sound off from a more radical-conservative side), but I don't identify as radical either, because I don't do anything to try to change the political system (I'm too lazy to start a revolution).
    The definitions have been so multilated, it is fair to associate liberalism with the Democratic party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth
    You realize there is a difference between liberal and Democrat, as well as conservative and Republican, right?

    I am liberal (surprise surprise, I know), but I'm not a Democrat because I despise the 2 party system for the reasons you mention. I'm sort of like a radical who believes that the system needs tore down and rebuilt (actually sounds like you, but you tend to sound off from a more radical-conservative side), but I don't identify as radical either, because I don't do anything to try to change the political system (I'm too lazy to start a revolution).
    Again: those words are diametrically opposed. You can't just shove them together and think it means something; well, unless you want to throw the exactitude and usefulness of language straight out the window.

    Radical = extreme change from accepted or traditional forms.
    Conservative = maintaining accepted or traditional forms.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dresta
    Again: those words are diametrically opposed. You can't just shove them together and think it means something; well, unless you want to throw the exactitude and usefulness of language straight out the window.

    Radical = extreme change from accepted or traditional forms.
    Conservative = maintaining accepted or traditional forms.

    Only if viewed as absolutes. However, you can be radical in some ways and conservative in others. He seems to have conservative values for the most part, yet he seems to want a radical change in the party system.

    Not hard to figure out that somebody that identifies with something can have an exception here and there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dresta
    Again: those words are diametrically opposed. You can't just shove them together and think it means something; well, unless you want to throw the exactitude and usefulness of language straight out the window.

    Radical = extreme change from accepted or traditional forms.
    Conservative = maintaining accepted or traditional forms.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth
    Only if viewed as absolutes. However, you can be radical in some ways and conservative in others. He seems to have conservative values for the most part, yet he seems to want a radical change in the party system.

    Not hard to figure out that somebody that identifies with something can have an exception here and there


    Hey I think you're a smart guy, but Dresta has you beat in this instance. He is correct, your definitions are a true oxymoron. You have to properly understand your vocab if you don't want to end up contradicting yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth
    Only if viewed as absolutes. However, you can be radical in some ways and conservative in others. He seems to have conservative values for the most part, yet he seems to want a radical change in the party system.

    Not hard to figure out that somebody that identifies with something can have an exception here and there
    So the Republican party is conservative, and he is a conservative, yet he wants to radically change the party system? Thanks for not making any sense.

    Just admit you don't know what the words mean, or understand their historical significance, and simply use them because you are a slave to the sound bite driven political culture that we live in. No one who knows what they're talking about would use the term 'radical conservative' - just like they wouldn't use the term 'social liberal' - any time some mongoloid refers to themselves as a social liberal it axiomatically defines them as an ignorant cretin whose political opinions are not to be taken seriously. It is quite useful in that way, actually.

    I don't even use the term liberal unless referring to someone or a group of people who call themselves by that name; it has long been unusable because of mutilators of language such as yourself.

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