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Old 05-01-2017, 08:51 AM   #31
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Default Re: Why did LeBron play so shitty in 2011?

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Stupid thing is, the LeBron stans hated how insufferable the Curry/Warrior stans were last season, then they end up behaving just as retarded.

Guess you can't all be like Spurs fans


Shit, Bron stans were like that BEFORE Curry stans last season.
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Old 05-01-2017, 08:55 AM   #32
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The funny thing is, Curry's Finals last year are on the same tier as LeBron's in 2011, they'll both be mentioned among the worst Finals and biggest chokes of all time. Only difference is Curry doesn't have 3 FMVP's

Lebron was playing well enough during that playoff run that you had Scottie Pippen, of all people, saying he just might be the best overall player ever. Curry's 2016 playoff run in general was inconsistent so I don't see how you could compare the two. Had Curry duplicated his regular season performance for the most part during the western conference playoffs, THEN stunk it up in the finals, you'd have a more apt comparison. At the least Curry had a few 30 point games including a 38 point performance in that series.

Lebron's drop in performance was far more jarring than Curry's. He looked passive and disengaged from the moment in many instances throughout that series. I mean an 8 point game on 11 shots in a pivotal game from someone of his historical stature is inexcusable.

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Old 05-01-2017, 09:25 AM   #33
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These are all threads about LeBron's 2011 season alone and I'm sure I missed a couple dozen more. I don't think ISH's word count limit would allow me to post links to all the threads started by warriorfag about LeBron.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=427360
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=430246
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=428373
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=416172
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=416241
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=416978
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=415846
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=415690
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=428260
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=402397
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=413543
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=413651
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=415171
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=417002
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=417101
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=418357
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=420416
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=420838
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=422599
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=425974
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=426370
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=427253
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=427758
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Old 05-01-2017, 09:55 AM   #34
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Lebron was playing well enough during that playoff run that you had Scottie Pippen, of all people, saying he just might be the best overall player ever. Curry's 2016 playoff run in general was inconsistent so I don't see how you could compare the two. Had Curry duplicated his regular season performance for the most part during the western conference playoffs, THEN stunk it up in the finals, you'd have a more apt comparison. At the least Curry had a few 30 point games including a 38 point performance in that series.

Lebron's drop in performance was far more jarring than Curry's. He looked passive and disengaged from the moment in many instances throughout that series. I mean an 8 point game on 11 shots in a pivotal game from someone of his historical stature is inexcusable.

That's what makes the whole situation so weird.

Like I said before, it looked like there was an agreement in place between LeBron and ________ before the series started. He never played that passive before that series.

People keep saying worst performance ever, yet he still had the most W/S throughout the 2011 postseason. You would think if it was so bad he would have dropped out of the win share race.

Plus, MJ only took 8 shots in a 1989 ECF playoff game 5 which was the biggest game to date of his career. The series was tired at 2 also.
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Old 05-01-2017, 10:25 AM   #35
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That's what makes the whole situation so weird.

Like I said before, it looked like there was an agreement in place between LeBron and ________ before the series started. He never played that passive before that series.

People keep saying worst performance ever, yet he still had the most W/S throughout the 2011 postseason. You would think if it was so bad he would have dropped out of the win share race.

Plus, MJ only took 8 shots in a 1989 ECF playoff game 5 which was the biggest game to date of his career. The series was tired at 2 also.

Yes, but he scored 18 points by getting to the line 11 times. Obviously, 18 is well off his usual standard, but there's a big difference between that and an 8 point game. It's one thing to not have a high volume of shots, but the low amount of free throws just showed overall a lack of aggression. MJ was also the prime focus of Detroit's defense in that series, he didn't have a D.Wade level player that the defense had to focus on as well. Pippen wasn't a star at this point and Detroit didn't have to game-plan for him. There's a difference between a team focusing on keeping the ball out of your hands to make the others beat you, and simply not being aggressive and disengaged.

And given that Wade scored 32 and Bosh 24 in that game, and they lost by 3, it's reasonable to conclude that Lebron's under-performance directly resulted in them losing that game which would have put them up 3-1 with two of the three remaining games at home. Dirk wasn't even having a great game, 21 points on 6-19 shooting. That game was extremely winnable on Miami's end.

The fact that he still had the highest WS makes my point that he was playing at an incredible level before the finals. When people say worst performance, obviously they aren't referring to his eastern playoffs performance.

Now as far as some agreement, I'm not sure what you're talking about. You'll have to elaborate on that.

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Old 05-01-2017, 11:05 AM   #36
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1. His game was narrow and raw. bad jumper, bad post play, relied heavily on bulldozing/athleticism.

2. Just doesn't have the clutch gene, or the eye of the tiger. He's basically the face of a softer generation as opposed to guys like Kobe, and it shows in game. You can't pick him as the guy you can rely on if the game is close in the 4th.
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Old 05-01-2017, 11:20 AM   #37
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1. His game was narrow and raw. bad jumper, bad post play, relied heavily on bulldozing/athleticism.

2. Just doesn't have the clutch gene, or the eye of the tiger. He's basically the face of a softer generation as opposed to guys like Kobe, and it shows in game. You can't pick him as the guy you can rely on if the game is close in the 4th.
Curry, Popovic, and all of Oklahoma disagree
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Old 05-01-2017, 12:13 PM   #38
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Curry doesnt even have 3 FMVP votes



Dude is almost 30 and has done nothing in the league (similar to OP who is 30 and has done nothing with his life)

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Old 05-01-2017, 12:32 PM   #39
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Curry doesnt even have 3 FMVP votes



Dude is almost 30 and has done nothing in the league (similar to OP who is 30 and has done nothing with his life)


Sounds like the EXACT SAME path you're headed down, Simone baby-boy.

How old are you now? 24 and still no highschool diploma?

Just 6 more years of waisting away on ISH talking to yourself through your multiple alts and you'll be right there.
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Old 05-01-2017, 03:01 PM   #40
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Curry, Popovic, and all of Oklahoma disagree

This was in 2011...I'm not talking about 2012-2017. Of course he worked on those things since he's the most criticized player and got better through time.
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Old 05-01-2017, 03:20 PM   #41
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The pressure got to him and he froze up like a popsicle...it's as simple as that. This meltdown while in his prime keeps him out of the top 5.
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Old 05-01-2017, 04:24 PM   #42
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These are all threads about LeBron's 2011 season alone and I'm sure I missed a couple dozen more. I don't think ISH's word count limit would allow me to post links to all the threads started by warriorfag about LeBron.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=427360
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=430246
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=428373
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=416172
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=416241
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=416978
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=415846
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=415690
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=428260
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=402397
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=413543
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=413651
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=415171
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=417002
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=417101
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=418357
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=420416
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=420838
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=422599
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=425974
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=426370
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=427253
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=427758
so he is basically doing the same thing that DnK and his alts are doing?
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Old 05-01-2017, 04:48 PM   #43
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He was deferring to Wade a lot, as at that point it was still a 1a/1b situation.

Also, Mark Cuban specifically said their gameplan was to see if the other guys (besides Lebron) could beat them. "Lebron made the right pass to the right guy who didn't finish".

In the end, the chances of a team winning with their star player playing like that are much better than when the star player takes 20-25 shots per game at a 35% rate. The former is a neutral impact...the latter is a negative impact.
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Old 05-01-2017, 04:52 PM   #44
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Curry averaged 23 ppg still which is a huge step up from brons 18...curry also just shot/played poorly..lebrons dissapearance will always remain a mystery and the biggest choke of all time.

Yes, you are correct in completely disregarding the other parts of the game of basketball besides points per game.
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Old 05-01-2017, 11:23 PM   #45
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These are all threads about LeBron's 2011 season alone and I'm sure I missed a couple dozen more. I don't think ISH's word count limit would allow me to post links to all the threads started by warriorfag about LeBron.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=427360
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=430246
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=428373
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=416172
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=416241
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=416978
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=415846
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=415690
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=428260
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=402397
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=413543
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=413651
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=415171
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=417002
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=417101
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=418357
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=420416
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=420838
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=422599
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=425974
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=426370
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=427253
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=427758

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