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Old 02-17-2009, 06:11 PM   #91
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:12 PM   #92
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a younger team

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griffin???
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:14 PM   #93
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People are overrating Chandler. He's decent defender not great.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:26 PM   #94
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Westbrook/???/ Durant/ Jeff Green/ Tyson Chandler seems like a nice thing to build around. Maybe they take a nice young SG in the next draft and build on those 5 guys.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:38 PM   #95
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fantastic move for the Thunder. frankly, i'm very impressed.

they free up roster spots, unload 3 guys who weren't doing anything for them, and bring in a C who'll shore up defense and rebounding for them. even if you don't look beyond the players exchanged, it makes sense for OKC.

other side effects...

Collisson goes to the bench. he was an alright starter, but he'll be a very good back up player. with Nick and Nenad sliding back a slot each in the rotation, the Thunder now have a strong C rotation, and lots of depth there.

those free roster spots also allow them the flexibility of possibly *keeping* some of the 5 first round picks (over the next 2 years) that they otherwise may have moved. options/flexibility are a great thing when the draft is so uncertain. it also provides them with some leverage via draft-and-trade moves, and opens up the possibility of another trade (just throwing out a wild example--a move to exchange Green for a PF, which may require other players to make the math work. don't be mad, i love Green's game. i'm just sayin'...).

options... flexibility... youth... the Thunder have a bright future ahead of them if they keep making shrewd moves like this. they are paving the way for some bigger moves in the next 2 years. this shows a lot of foresight.

also... what if Chandler opts out before his final year? *whistle* lots of money freeing up...

OKC definitely did a great job with this one.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:39 PM   #96
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A young team with a brighter future.

Westbrook/Durant/Green/Chandler + free agency money & 5 first rounders in the next 2 drafts

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Old 02-17-2009, 06:40 PM   #97
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The word 'irrelevant' comes to mind
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:44 PM   #98
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Chandler is overrated, always has been and always will be. He has never really progressed as a basketball player. He got a lot of rebounds on a team that lacks size and got most of his points off CP lobs. He is a product of Chris Paul.

Wilcox & J.Smith are no worse then Chandler, IMO.

So why was he getting rebounds and blocking shots in Chicago? Nobody is saying he'll be an offensive force, but he can give you 8-10 points a game while threat, while boosting a defense that was not very good.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:49 PM   #99
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If Chandler is a product of CP3 lobs, then are CPs assist numbers inflated because of Chandler?
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:54 PM   #100
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So why was he getting rebounds and blocking shots in Chicago? Nobody is saying he'll be an offensive force, but he can give you 8-10 points a game while threat, while boosting a defense that was not very good.
Can he? His history doesn't exactly back this up. He's never been able to score all that much (ever), he rebounds but up until he came to the Hornets he always had trouble staying on the court (whether it be fouls or offensive irrelevance). And despite his reputation as a shot blocker, he doesn't really have the numbers to back this up. In fact Chandler has had issues with his attitude from day one to the point where it's easy to take him out of a game (this season being primary example of that).

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If Chandler is a product of CP3 lobs, then are CPs assist numbers inflated because of Chandler?
Except Paul's assist numbers haven't really changed all that much with Chandler out of the line up (meaning that he'll find other ways to get players involved). And this season teams have defending the lob passes a lot better that they were last season, so a lot of Chandler's points haven't been coming from there (which is the main reason why his scoring is down by about 3 points a game).

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Old 02-17-2009, 06:54 PM   #101
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Yeah Chandler played well in Chicago when he wasn't hurt. But he even did better early on in NO i thought. I don't watch NO at all, but i could've sworn he was getting a lot of credit for their turnaround and averaging pretty monster double double numbers for a while. Maybe he fell off, but the Chandler i watched on national tv sometimes looked pretty beast.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:56 PM   #102
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Be honest, did people consider him a good player his last couple years in Chicago?
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tyson chander of the oklahoma thundler
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:01 PM   #104
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Be honest, did people consider him a good player his last couple years in Chicago?

He was among the main reasons the Bulls made the playoffs, especially after Curry had heart issues. He was the only big on that team that played defense and helped give that team its identity. Since he left Chicago the team hasn't been the same.
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I wonder how Ty will do without CP3....
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