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Old 07-11-2007, 04:01 PM   #1
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OKLAHOMA CITY -- The Oklahoma football program must forfeit its wins from the 2005 season and will lose two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years.

The penalties, announced Wednesday by the NCAA, stem from a case involving two players, including the Sooners' starting quarterback, who were kicked off the team for being paid for work they had not performed at a Norman car dealership.

The Sooners went 8-4 and beat Oregon in the Holiday Bowl to end the 2005 season. Records from that season involving quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn must be vacated, the NCAA said, and coach Bob Stoops' career record will be amended to reflect the forfeitures, dropping it from 86-19 in eight seasons to 78-27.

Oklahoma also will have two years of probation added to an earlier penalty, extending the Sooners' probation to May 23, 2010. Those sanctions are in addition to those already self-imposed by Oklahoma, which has banned athletes from working at the car dealership until at least the 2008-09 academic year and has moved to prevent the athletes' supervisor at the dealership, Brad McRae, from being involved with the university's athletics program until at least August 2011.

Oklahoma also will reduce the number of football coaches who are allowed to recruit off campus this fall. The Sooners also dismissed Bomar, Quinn and walk-on Jermaine Hardison from the team.

"Although this case centered on a few violations involving three student-athletes, the committee finds this case to be significant and serious for several reasons," the NCAA report said, noting the length of time of the violations and the fact that Oklahoma had appeared before the committee in April 2006 regarding violations in its men's basketball program.

On Aug. 3, the day before the Sooners began preseason practice, Stoops dismissed Bomar and Quinn from the team after the university determined they had been paid for work not performed at Big Red Sports and Imports. That led to a subsequent NCAA investigation.

The committee found that Oklahoma "demonstrated a failure to monitor" the employment of several athletes, including some football players who worked during the academic year. The NCAA said that failure led to the university not detecting NCAA rules violations.

During the investigation, the university disputed that allegation, arguing that the NCAA should applaud, not penalize, its efforts to root out violations and noted that NCAA president Myles Brand told one news outlet that the university "acted with integrity in taking swift and decisive action" in the case. Both Bomar and Quinn lost a season of eligibility.

Bomar has been ordered by the NCAA to pay back more than $7,400 in extra benefits to charity, while Quinn was told to pay back more than $8,100. Both players transferred to Division I-AA schools -- Bomar to Sam Houston State and Quinn to Montana -- where they can resume their careers this season.

Oklahoma officials also appeared before the Committee on Infractions in April 2006 following an investigation into hundreds of improper recruiting phone calls by former basketball coach Kelvin Sampson's staff.

Oklahoma escaped major sanctions in that case, as the NCAA Committee on Infractions found the university guilty of a "failure to monitor," a less severe ruling than "lack of institutional control," which had been recommended by the NCAA's enforcement staff.

The committee moved Oklahoma's self-imposed probation so it would begin in May 2006 and end in May 2008. The NCAA also issued a public reprimand and censure but otherwise accepted the university's self-imposed sanctions, which included reductions in scholarships, recruiting calls and trips and visits to the school by prospective recruits.

wow. just wow.

well the NCAA just killed all schools motivations to come clean and self investigate when they find things are going wrong.

the sanctimonious hypocritical NCAA strikes again!

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Old 07-11-2007, 04:06 PM   #2
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Default Re: OT: Oklahoma football must forfeit 2005 season

Not that big of a deal. Not like they won the NC. and they only gave up 2 scholarships.
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:08 PM   #3
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Funny.

But it's not that serious. They forfeiting a Holiday bowl, not a Nat'l championship..
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:09 PM   #4
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NCAA is making a grizzzzzip if they can keep this policy and look themselves in the mirror...
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:12 PM   #5
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The NCAA is the most controlling, aesinine, uptight organization I have ever seen. Lucky for Oklahoma the 2005 season was nothing special (especially by lofty OU standards), and their stupid ruling does not change what actually transpired on the field. They can alter the record books however they want, what happened in 2005 happened and they can't change that. Idiots.

I still can't believe the Fab Five's banners, wins, and records were eliminated after that whole scandal with Ed Martin paying Webber and Tractor Traylor. Maybe they can actually hold the individuals accountable, instead of smearing the entire programs.

I remember they were investigating Rick Majeras and Utah back in the day becasue it was alleged he bought Keith Van Horn a bagel sandwich. Look it up.
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:59 PM   #6
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well the NCAA just killed all schools motivations to come clean and self investigate when they find things are going wrong.

OU didn't really do a whole lot outside of kicking those 2 off the team. They didn't really sanction themselves for it.

I'm guessing precious USC will came away unscathed through all of this...
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Old 07-11-2007, 05:01 PM   #7
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Yes it's going to be interesting to see what good with the Reggie Bush junk...
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Old 07-11-2007, 05:31 PM   #8
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Default Re: OT: Oklahoma football must forfeit 2005 season

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OU didn't really do a whole lot outside of kicking those 2 off the team. They didn't really sanction themselves for it.

kicking Bomar off is huge. thats a good chunk of change they could potentially lose from bowl games without him. They could have very well lost a title and the money and exposure it brings over it. Thats a big deal.
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Old 07-11-2007, 05:55 PM   #9
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the NCAA rules are just asinine at best...i forget the persons involved but a football player is getting married this month and his head coach that he invited to the wedding got a letter from the NCAA warning him not to buy the player a present...lol
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:55 PM   #10
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Bomar wasn't even that good of a QB. OU didn't even give themselves a slap on the wrist for what happened. OU should haven gotten steeper penalties. But yeah, the NCAA has a bunch of really stupid rules.
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Old 07-11-2007, 08:40 PM   #11
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Funny how bush's family gets a mansion but nothin happens

USC= University of Standard Cheating
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Old 07-12-2007, 01:10 PM   #12
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Seems as though schools have been trying to make themselves look like they're able to handle in-house transgressions. But this brings to mind the 1996 Boston College gambling incident where cornerback Kiernan Speight(he was at my old high school his first two years before transferring) was accused of being involved, but was later exonerated. That just shows why NCAA has to step in sometimes because a lot of schools just don't get it right with their own investigations.

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