Originally Posted by apeman222
did i say he's the "only one"?
im just a fan of odom and have grown accustomed to watching him for the last three years....all im saying is that odom is not the problem...
now let me ask you this...if marion is such an improvement over odom...why would a team like phx want to trade for him?
You guys know I'm a Lamar fan.
But the reason PHX wants to move Marion is for 2 reasons.
Lakerfreak covered the first, problems with Amare.
The second is because Marion has an opt out after this season.
He has a player option next season at 17 mil, but he has been saying all along that he is not happy in PHX, and that he will opt out.
If he does this, PHX gets nothing, and since they are way over the cap, Marions departure would not make any cap space available to them to use, so they basically lose him for nothing.
The Suns are hoping that Marion will see that there may not be anyone able to sign him this offseason for anywhere close to the 17 mil option he has from the Suns, and will stay another year.
He has handled himself very professionally this season. He stated his desire to be somewhere else, but once the season started, he's been all business.
Very few teams will have max cap space this off season, so PHX is hoping Marion will see this and take his option to stay in PHX one more year. If things go well, they can reatain him long term under the Bird rule, if not, they have another year to shop him. Its a risky proposition, so if they were offered a player like Lamar, who really fits their system, and is cool with playing second fiddle to Nash/Amare, they would do it. It also saves them about 3 mil and thereby saves them 6 mil with the lux tax penalty.
I'm not necessarily saying I'd do it, just wanted to pass on PHX's reasoning here.
The main concerns I'd have are that as Bynum becomes our go to guy up front, LO is a perfect complimentary player.
Also, right now, LO averages 14 per game and Marion 18 per. Would these numbers be switched if LO goes to the Suns system, with Nash, and Marion comes here and must play second to Kobe and eventually Bynum.
Plus, LO is a great guy and teamate, never makes waves, just does all the little unnoticed things it takes to win. Marion tends to speak out and has problems with teamates.
The safe thing for us to do is stay with LO. We are just going to need to weather this storm with Bynum out. Our long term prospects are still amongst the brightest in the league. After next season, when LO's Miami contract comes off the books, we'll have options. Resign LO for more reasonable money, or go after another PF. There will be many available (Marion, Brand, Boozer, Okafor, Wilcox, Sheed, as well as Lamar), and we'll have money available to go after them.
The realy question is this:
Long term, who's the best option that compliments Bynum.
I think LO is tough to beat there. He is a great defensive rebounder, he runs the floor, handles the ball. etc. The only weakness he has is that he's not as great defender. (something that Marion is great at) But we all saw how our defense improved with big Drew in there. That improvement will continue as he gains experience.
So, I'm still a Lamar fan, but I agree with Ceballos on Kwame, Luke and Mihm, might even throw Vlad into that category as well.
And why is Walton starting instead of Ariza?