worthy won finals MVP over kareem and magic once. kobe was never even metioned for the award.
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09-30-2006, 07:40 PM #31Good High School Starter
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09-30-2006, 07:55 PM #32Goat Loading
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You can't compare players that way, Magic through out his career had so much talent around him...Kobe did well when he had Shaquille (3 titles, made 1st team All-NBA and 1st Team All-Defense....all-star every year), and is doing great things right now as a leader...but he needs talent around him to win MVP's and titles. To me Kobe was the MVP last season, and I believe if he had a little more consistenct and talent around him...he would have had 1 MVP under his belt.Magic has what 3 MVPs? Like 4 Finals MVPs? Went to the Finals what, NINE TIMES?
It'll take even more than that.
I have no doubt in my mind that Kobe ni the next 5 years wins atleast 1 MVP...but in this league you usually need talent to have a chance at winning the MVP. Jordan dominated basketball early in his career while never winning an MVP because his team never did anything...same thing with Kobe, he did his thing as a 2nd option now give him a chance to do it as a leader.
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09-30-2006, 07:56 PM #33NBA Legend
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I'm no Lakers fan, but how can anyone put anything but Magic at #1?
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09-30-2006, 07:58 PM #34Goat Loading
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I agree, I'd only make an exception if his name was Kareem.I'm no Lakers fan, but how can anyone put anything but Magic at #1?
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09-30-2006, 08:00 PM #35NBA Legend
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Did Kareem have a lot of success with the Bucks? As in championships or at least finals appearances and MVPs?
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09-30-2006, 08:01 PM #36Sound the Charge
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I think he won a title, with the Big O.
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09-30-2006, 08:03 PM #37NBA Legend
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That would make sense. Forgot about Oscar and him.
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09-30-2006, 08:03 PM #38Good High School Starter
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2 finals (71, 74) and one ring (71) Originally Posted by DeuceWallaces
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09-30-2006, 08:05 PM #39Decent college freshman
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Did he.... Originally Posted by DeuceWallaces
He won an MVP, scoring title, and a championship with Big O as his sidepart with the Bucks.
Kobe is not a top 5 Laker, YET in terms of overall accolades and basketball legacy. But he will mount his way in. But I don't think there is no way in he tops it...
Magic
Kareem
Shaq
West
Baylor
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09-30-2006, 08:05 PM #40NBA Legend
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Think you gotta go with Magic then as the Laker GOAT. Originally Posted by lakers-city
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09-30-2006, 08:07 PM #41Good High School Starter
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deffinitely, magic is the lakers GOAT and both shaq and kareem are second, mikan is third, wilt is 4th, west is 5th, baylor is 6th and worthy is 7th.
kobe is no top 5 yet and will never be unless he wins a ring without shaq.
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09-30-2006, 08:16 PM #42Laker fan here
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I don't think Kobe tops the list, he won't ever come close to magic and kareem, but he might make #3, If he keeps up his standard of play over the next 6-7 years. Of course the key is winning the rings though. He needs to mellow down though and learn to play with his team mates better for that to happen.
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09-30-2006, 10:28 PM #43Superstar
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Magic
Shaq
Kareem
Kobe
West
Baylor
Wilt
For every ring Kobe wins as a laker, he'll move up a spot.
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10-01-2006, 12:45 AM #44Saw a basketball once
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Man it's SAD that even some Lakers fans have no **** clue about the HISTORY of their own franchise. Lakers basketball didn't start with Magic and end with Shaq n' Kobe. Here's the REAL top 5 +2:
1) Magic Johnson (no explanation needed)
2) Elgin Baylor (according to Chick, he's No. 1 on the list)
3) Jerry West (no brainer)
4) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (had he started his career with the Lakers, he's definitely be #1 on this list)
5) Shaquille O'Neal (can't stand him, but he delivered 3 titles)
6) James Worthy (Mr. Consistency; 88 Finals MVP + Celtics Killer)
7) Kobe Bryant (has a chance to crack Top 3 if he wins 1-2 more titles)
Anyone who disagrees with this list doesn't know **** about LAKERS BASKETBALL. As much as I love Kobe (NO Lance Bass)....he's 7 or 6 (at best) in this list AT THIS CURRENT TIME. Most likely he will move up. How far? It's anyone's guess!
BTW anyone who puts Shaq, Kobe or Kareem ABOVE West and Baylor need to get their heads examined and their Basketball IQ questioned. West and Elgin were the dominant duo of the 60's. The greatest Lakers of them all, Chick Hearn (RIP), til the day he passed away said that the greatest basketball player he's ever seen is Elgin Baylor.
Chick > YOULast edited by HHH; 10-01-2006 at 12:51 AM.
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10-01-2006, 01:11 AM #45Goat Status
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Kobe by the end of his career will be top 3
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