Who would you take to be the franchise player of your team, irving or rose?

[dbk123]

Im asking about pre injury rose btw. Id still take irving though.

[noob cake]

Rose is damaged goods now, may never recover. Hypothetical debates mean nothing.

[Derivative]

Irving at age 20 >>>>>>>>>>> Rose at age 20

Rose had more potential because of his athleticism, but now Rose lost it.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

kyrie. a consistent jump shot is more importAnt for a pg than athleticism imo.

[KOBE143]

who cares

As long as one of them become Lakers future pg, I dont give a ****..

[Bucket_Nakedz]

rose. yes, i am biased, but rose is proven.

kyrie is unbelievably polished and his game is so smooth. clearly a better shooter than rose, and maybe even more clutch. still, i need to see what he can do in the playoffs when teams really play. kyrie is dat dude, tho

[Bucket_Nakedz]

Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb

kyrie. a consistent jump shot is more importAnt for a pg than athleticism imo.

yeah, but how many pgs are as athletic as rose and westbrook? if you have the speed to blow by your defender, why not use it?

[brandonislegend]

Originally Posted by Bucket_Nakedz

yeah, but how many pgs are as athletic as rose and westbrook? if you have the speed to blow by your defender, why not use it?

Uh I don't know if you ever seen Kyrie play but he can blow by anyone at any time

here is just TONIGHTs game for an example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUbio...&feature=ytfce

and to answer the question Irving is 20 and better at that age so I pick him, if Rose never had a knee injury it would be close though.

[Bucket_Nakedz]

i will concede that kyrie is clearly having a better 2nd year than rose, but. rose second year was filled with injuries in the first half and he really didn't initiate himself in the offense until the end when they were fighting for the 8th spot and got in the playoffs.

when they played lebron and the cavs, rose really showed his true potential. they lost in 5, but i knew dude was going to be a bad ass. the next year he won the mvp.

[Doranku]

Kyrie. Kyrie wouldn't be made completely and utterly invisible by LeBron in the ECF.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Originally Posted by Doranku

Kyrie. Kyrie wouldn't be made completely and utterly invisible by LeBron in the ECF.

well that's unfair. kobe made kyrie struggle when they played.

[blablabla]

Originally Posted by noob cake

Rose is damaged goods now, may never recover. Hypothetical debates mean nothing.

Yeah if we were living in the 1970s more than 90% of athletes that have suffered an acl tear return just strong or even stronger

[Doranku]

Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb

well that's unfair. kobe made kyrie struggle when they played.

"Struggling" is one thing. Shooting 1-26 when being guarded by someone is an entirely different thing.