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Old 06-15-2007, 04:10 PM   #1
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I pulled this from the main forums i'll see if i can find a link

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Breakdown of Lakers players who have led the team in scoring and the record in those games:

Player W-L
Odom 4-1
Turiaf 1-0
Bynum 1-0
Walton 1-0
Parker 1-0
Cook 1-0 (tied for lead with Bryant in this game)
Evans 1-2 (tied for lead with Bryant twice, L.A. went 1-1 in those games)
Bryant 30-30 (includes three games where Kobe tied for team lead, team went 2-1 in those games)

Prior to Kobe's last five 40+ games, the Lakers were actually much worse when Kobe led the team in scoring (25-30). For some reason, the team is much better when Kobe doesn't lead the team in scoring. It's hard to tell why this is but the team is 8-2 when Kobe does not lead the team in scoring (or tied for the team lead). Maybe a balanced offense does help.
http://www.hoopsanalyst.com/

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Old 06-15-2007, 04:14 PM   #2
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Yeah that looks bad, but I bet no one cares to mention that for how many of those games Kobe was without Lamar Odom and Luke Walton.
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:18 PM   #3
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Yeah that looks bad, but I bet no one cares to mention that for how many of those games Kobe was without Lamar Odom and Luke Walton.
yes your correct but the numbers still point to games where he did have them. i'm just surprised that the names across the board, it's not like it was either kobe or one other player, it's either kobe or pick one of several who led the team in scoring that night and they won...
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SOme of those games are most likely blowouts. Others are when another player steps up and helps Kobe out.
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:30 PM   #5
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Those are meaningless stats.
Lots to factor in, esp injuries. Plus, the sampling of other players W/L is not sufficient to draw a meaningful conclusion.
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Old 06-15-2007, 06:38 PM   #6
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no the stats are not meaningless if they were meaningless then why make a trade and try and bring in kobe help? they show that the lakers need to have more than just kobe trying to win games, they show that when others are involved the lakers win more games... how can they be considered meaningless?
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no the stats are not meaningless if they were meaningless then why make a trade and try and bring in kobe help? they show that the lakers need to have more than just kobe trying to win games, they show that when others are involved the lakers win more games... how can they be considered meaningless?

because those 1-0, 1-0 etc. don't tell the whole story. they don't reflect the whole story. Indeed, it would suggest that if Kobe simply let others lead the team in scoring, we would have a MUCH better record. It almost suggests that Kobe is the real problem.
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because those 1-0, 1-0 etc. don't tell the whole story. they don't reflect the whole story. Indeed, it would suggest that if Kobe simply let others lead the team in scoring, we would have a MUCH better record. It almost suggests that Kobe is the real problem.
no i don't see it that way but i can see how a overly sensitive kobe gooooopie might!!! haha lol just kidding..

no i actually didn't see it that way, i did see it that the lakers to be successful do need others to score besides kobe and on some nights it may take them to lead the scoring... it's like the spurs, look at how they win, manu, tony or duncan one will step up on any given night and lead the team, it's like a tripple headed monster, you shut one down and there's still more that can strike... and the beauty of the spurs is they don't care who that player is...
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I personally would like to see Kobe get the help he needs. Yes, the team would be much better if everybody gets involve, but they have to have confidence in there self first. I can understand why Kobe wants a supporting case around him, too win more championships.
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