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Good college starter
Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
Phelps revolutionised nothing.I never understand why people say guys Like Phelps, Thorpe and Bolt revolutionised anything in terms of technique there are better swimmers and runners out there,that kid Le clos has a better final 50 than Phelps ever did.
Phelps is a highly motivated individual who was naturally built fir swimming and worked hard enough to accomplish greatness , but he hasn't changed a single thing about swimming.
There are better technicians to model yourself after.
Just like Tennis, the completeness of Djokovics groundstrokes is far more revolutionary than anything Federer has done.
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College superstar
Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
Originally Posted by lilgodfather1
I'm sorry 18 gold medals says Phelps is the greatest Olympian. The muffuka has more gold medals than any other athlete has medals period. Being the greatest Olympian ever is a great accomplishment, but as mentioned other athletes are really limited in what they can accomplish medal wise. Bolt can grab 4 gold medals every Olympics in the 100x4, 100, 200, 400 (although he doesn't race this one, I think he could). If he could do that imo it would be a greater accomplishment than Phelps 8 golds in one Olympics.
400 is really pushing it for a sprinter though, which is why athletes are limited, except for swimmers. You can't sprint the 10,000, which I am sure if Bolt tried he would completely die.
11 rings and havimg the fmvp named after Bill Russell makes him the goat?
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College superstar
Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
Lmao " changed the sport of swimming".
Whats so different now?
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Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
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NBA Legend
Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
Phelps is more similar to Beasley if you catch my drift.
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Troll who tries to provoke you
Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
Originally Posted by The Iron Fist
Lmao " changed the sport of swimming".
Whats so different now?
again proves why every kobe'tard is a FULL regard.
8 Golds in 8 Events = 6 FMVPs in 6 Finals
GOAT = GOAT
now go F'k youself.
You can prop up Bolt all you want because he is a ni***r.
Phelps is GOAT & has bigger legendary status than Bolt will ever have.
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Troll who tries to provoke you
Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
Originally Posted by The Iron Fist
11 rings and havimg the fmvp named after Bill Russell makes him the goat?
NO
6 FMVPs in 6 Finals despite team forcefully broken up is a GOAT status.
11 rings dont count when Havlechik has the biggest Celtics moment by "stole the ball."
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College superstar
Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
Originally Posted by Rubio2Gasol
Phelps revolutionised nothing.I never understand why people say guys Like Phelps, Thorpe and Bolt revolutionised anything in terms of technique there are better swimmers and runners out there,that kid Le clos has a better final 50 than Phelps ever did.
Phelps is a highly motivated individual who was naturally built fir swimming and worked hard enough to accomplish greatness , but he hasn't changed a single thing about swimming.
There are better technicians to model yourself after.
Just like Tennis, the completeness of Djokovics groundstrokes is far more revolutionary than anything Federer has done.
Funny you should talk about completeness in regard to Roger Federer whose game is as complete as any who every played tennis. Maybe you should think about his recent play on grass - beaten by both Federer (at Wimbledon) and Andy Murray (Olympics). Roger Federer - GOAT tennis player - record 17 (and counting) grand slam titles, 290 (and counting even at age 31 while Djok is in his prime) weeks at #1, 23 consecutive GS semifinals (almost 6 straight years), 33 (and counting) consecutive GS quarterfinals. Djokovic - so far - 1 great year.
Gotta say that I'm proud of my fellow Jamaican sprinters - gold in both women's and men's 100m. BTW, I went to school across from the cricket park (Sabina Park) mentioned by Yohan Blake last night.
Agree with the poster on blacks and swimming - not enough access. There are few pools in Jamaica but everyone can run.
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All washed up
Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
Originally Posted by Rubio2Gasol
Phelps revolutionised nothing.I never understand why people say guys Like Phelps, Thorpe and Bolt revolutionised anything in terms of technique there are better swimmers and runners out there,that kid Le clos has a better final 50 than Phelps ever did.
Phelps is a highly motivated individual who was naturally built fir swimming and worked hard enough to accomplish greatness , but he hasn't changed a single thing about swimming.
There are better technicians to model yourself after.
Just like Tennis, the completeness of Djokovics groundstrokes is far more revolutionary than anything Federer has done.
I agree that Phelps really has changed nothing except teaching the world that a 6'7 wingspan makes for a good butterfly.
I also agree about Fed, but to say Djokovic's game is in any way revolutionary relative to Fed is just incorrect. Djokovic has a conventional semi-western forehand and a corresponding two handed backhand; this is what just about any normal tennis player elects to use. He wins by being very fast, flexible, and strong; his shots are in no way unique. At least Fed has shown that players can still play an offensive style with flat shots and be successful.
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All washed up
Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
Originally Posted by rmt
Funny you should talk about completeness in regard to Roger Federer whose game is as complete as any who every played tennis. Maybe you should think about his recent play on grass - beaten by both Federer (at Wimbledon) and Andy Murray (Olympics). Roger Federer - GOAT tennis player - record 17 (and counting) grand slam titles, 290 (and counting even at age 31 while Djok is in his prime) weeks at #1, 23 consecutive GS semifinals (almost 6 straight years), 33 (and counting) consecutive GS quarterfinals. Djokovic - so far - 1 great year.
Gotta say that I'm proud of my fellow Jamaican sprinters - gold in both women's and men's 100m. BTW, I went to school across from the cricket park (Sabina Park) mentioned by Yohan Blake last night.
Agree with the poster on blacks and swimming - not enough access. There are few pools in Jamaica but everyone can run.
Djokovic does have a more complete game than Federer, aside from his serve. There is literally nothing in his game that opponents can consistently target to gain the upper hand in points. Fed's backhand has been a notorious weakness, if you hit topspin heavy shots to it you can take him off the court and force weak returns. Obviously, Fed is so good it's very difficult to take full advantage of this, and often hangs around until he gets a shot he is comfortable taking offensively, which is why he has achieved such success. But still, Fed has to rely on his forehand and serve much more than Djokovic has to rely on any single component of his game.
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Good college starter
Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
Originally Posted by ThatCoolKid
I agree that Phelps really has changed nothing except teaching the world that a 6'7 wingspan makes for a good butterfly.
I also agree about Fed, but to say Djokovic's game is in any way revolutionary relative to Fed is just incorrect. Djokovic has a conventional semi-western forehand and a corresponding two handed backhand; this is what just about any normal tennis player elects to use. He wins by being very fast, flexible, and strong; his shots are in no way unique. At least Fed has shown that players can still play an offensive style with flat shots and be successful.
In a technical sense Djokovic is the most complete ever, in a technical sense he is perfect. Perhaps revolutionized is not the word, because you're correct his style is as conventional as it gets.
The second point is what I have a problem with, the truth is , you're chances of winning drastically go down if you model yourself after Federer vs after Djokovic.
I was having this discussion with someone and they alerted me to the fact that Fed actually has revolutionized the game somewhat by synthesizing the millenium forehand and the classical forehand...so in that sense I was worng.
But I have a problem when people insinuate that natural talent like Fed's or Phelps essentially correlates to revolutionizing the game, what should be timeless are the perfect technicians, not the perfect athletes.That's how the game gets better.
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All washed up
Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
Originally Posted by Rubio2Gasol
In a technical sense Djokovic is the most complete ever, in a technical sense he is perfect. Perhaps revolutionized is not the word, because you're correct his style is as conventional as it gets.
The second point is what I have a problem with, the truth is , you're chances of winning drastically go down if you model yourself after Federer vs after Djokovic.
I was having this discussion with someone and they alerted me to the fact that Fed actually has revolutionized the game somewhat by synthesizing the millenium forehand and the classical forehand...so in that sense I was worng.
But I have a problem when people insinuate that natural talent like Fed's or Phelps essentially correlates to revolutionizing the game, what should be timeless are the perfect technicians, not the perfect athletes.That's how the game gets better.
Yeah, I completely agree.
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College superstar
Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
Originally Posted by gengiskhan
NO
6 FMVPs in 6 Finals despite team forcefully broken up is a GOAT status.
11 rings dont count when Havlechik has the biggest Celtics moment by "stole the ball."
11of 13 and having the award named after you>>>> 6 of 15 w 6 fmvps
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College superstar
Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
Originally Posted by gengiskhan
again proves why every kobe'tard is a FULL regard.
8 Golds in 8 Events = 6 FMVPs in 6 Finals
GOAT = GOAT
now go F'k youself.
You can prop up Bolt all you want because he is a ni***r.
Phelps is GOAT & has bigger legendary status than Bolt will ever have.
So what exactly did phelps change about the sport of swimming?
Btw, I motion to have this racist banned for good. No need to call Bolt a n i gg er.
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All washed up
Re: "I've looked up to M. Jordan my whole life. He has done something nobody ever has"
Originally Posted by The Iron Fist
So what exactly did phelps change about the sport of swimming?
Btw, I motion to have this racist banned for good. No need to call Bolt a n i gg er.
To be fair, Phelps did help the anti-polyurethane suit movement which eventually resulted in the ban in 2010. But his swimming did not change anything.
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