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    Default Re: Derrick Rose or OJ Mayo or Michael Beasley

    Quote Originally Posted by steve
    They might be stars there, but they aren't going to do anything this season (which I suppose makes sense, considering that Beasley at least is just going to jump after this year).
    Beasley knows he is going to jump after this year.
    Walker would've jumped last year if he didnt blow out his knee.Hes a lock to jump this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Low
    I really like the first Derrick Rose mix...that sh!t is awesome...
    watch the highlight of his first game for Memphis

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    Had Rose played for Bruce Weber, he would have been a much better player.
    Example: Deron Williams, and he didn't have anywhere near the hype Rose has around him right now coming out of HS.

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    ^^Caliparri can't?

    Dajuan Wagner would be great if not for issues out of his control

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    Default Re: Derrick Rose or OJ Mayo or Michael Beasley

    Quote Originally Posted by Da KO King
    or SG's with some passing skill (OJ Mayo & Derrick Rose).

    Derrick Rose is 6'4, and a poor shooter. He's also a excellent pure point guard , with a pass first mentality, great court vision, and the abilty to split the D and kick it out...why would that suggest a SG in any way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interminator
    ^^Caliparri can't?

    Dajuan Wagner would be great if not for issues out of his control
    We'll never know will we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interminator
    You're kidding me right?

    Bill Walker's team?
    Walker is an athletic freak but he is option 2 on that team like Augustin was option 2 for Texas

    Its Beasley's team,the guy who recruited him is his Head Coach

    Did you see Rose play last night?(hes NBA ready)
    You mean the same dude that recruited everyone on the team? The same guy that recruited Bill Walker? Bill Walker was a great player for them before he got hurt. It would be stupid to ask him to take a backseat for a freshman that is not that much better than him, if at all.

    Secondly, Rose played against a horrible team. Good job on that. It's like watching Kobe play against Valparaiso, of course he's gonna look amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IlliniFan
    We'll never know will we?
    so other than Williams

    who else has Weber produced?:

    Dee Brown

    Best PG school has been Arizona for the past decade
    even Shakur was a good PG but very very highly underrated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interminator
    so other than Williams

    who else has Weber produced?:

    Dee Brown

    Best PG school has been Arizona for the past decade
    even Shakur was a good PG but very very highly underrated
    Luther Head. And Weber has only been coaching at Illinois since 2003.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wang4three
    You mean the same dude that recruited everyone on the team? The same guy that recruited Bill Walker? Bill Walker was a great player for them before he got hurt. It would be stupid to ask him to take a backseat for a freshman that is not that much better than him, if at all.

    Secondly, Rose played against a horrible team. Good job on that. It's like watching Kobe play against Valparaiso, of course he's gonna look amazing.
    I watched Rose play amazing against Oak Hill Academy,99% of them go to top division 1 schools

    Huggins recruited Walker and Bennett,thats it.
    Beasley was a by product of Huggins bringing over the guy who was recruiting him,Huggins knew that it would net Beasley
    If the guy who recruited Beasley would've took a job at Rutgers then Beasley would've went there too
    Huggins has recruited Walker since Walker was a freshman,Cincy was in on Walker because he played in Cincinnati

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    Quote Originally Posted by IlliniFan
    Luther Head. And Weber has only been coaching at Illinois since 2003.
    Luther Head?

    You're telling me Weber developed Luther Head into a good PG
    :

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    Into a good guard, yes. No one had Head projected to be in the NBA till his senior season. Tell me who Calipari has produced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valliant13
    Derrick Rose is 6'4, and a poor shooter. He's also a excellent pure point guard , with a pass first mentality, great court vision, and the abilty to split the D and kick it out...why would that suggest a SG in any way?
    I've only seen Rose in short stints. However, I didn't see a PG in those few minutes.

    All I seen was a 6'4" kid with no real jumper who used excellent quickness to get into the lane and then pass.

    He didn't control tempo offensively or defensively and wasn't especially accurate with his passes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Interminator
    Bayless is the second coming of Arenas down at Arizona,but he'll make much more of an impact....

    Rose
    Lawson
    Collison
    Gordon
    Steele
    Those guys could've been lottery picks last year and bumped Law to the 2nd round

    the 2nd class
    Augustin
    James
    Weaver
    Neitzel
    Singletary
    Chalmers
    I don't consider Arenas a PG. Hell, I don't even view him as a combo guard. He's a straight up SG in my view.

    I will say that you are one of the few people to put up all the potential prospects. Most people only bring up Rose, OJ Mayo, Bayliss, Eric Gordon, and Tywan Lawson.

    I think the difference in view is that you are looking at the guys who may come out for 2008 while I'm looking at the guys who will be likely to come out.

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    Default Re: Derrick Rose or OJ Mayo or Michael Beasley

    iono.Antonio Burks?
    Dajuan Wagner?

    Tell me how many top recruits actually have made it to actually going to Memphis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da KO King
    I've only seen Rose in short stints. However, I didn't see a PG in those few minutes.

    All I seen was a 6'4" kid with no real jumper who used excellent quickness to get into the lane and then pass.

    He didn't control tempo offensively or defensively and wasn't especially accurate with his passes.


    I don't consider Arenas a PG. Hel,, I don't even view him as a combo guard. He's a straight up SG in my view.

    I will say that you are one of the few people to put up all the potential prospects. Most people only bring up Rose, OJ Mayo, Bayliss, Eric Gordon, and Tywan Lawson.

    I think the difference in view is that you are looking at the guys who may come out for 2008 while I'm looking at the guys who will be likely to come out.
    Likely to come out:
    Mayo-LOCK
    Lawson-LOCK
    Shved-LOCK
    Collison
    Rose
    Gordon
    James-LOCK

    there goes the underclassmen

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