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Glove
Re: #44 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by Dave3
No mention of Johnson's team having a pace roughly 10% higher than Nash's team? Interesting...
Not mentioning that KJ had playmakers on his team that were dishing 6+ assists per game while Nash had....no other playmakers on his team thus Nash got all his team's assists?
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Glove
Re: #44 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by DaHeezy
Playing in the Jordan era doesn't mean shyt. KJ wouldn't win it in the Shaq, Duncan, Kobe era either. Not to mention that you're comparing eras where all statistics are down. Use your head. You really believe KJ would average 12.2 assists in today's NBA?
If he got 12+ assists while he was playing with another playmaker which often set the offense and got 6 assists for himself...then yes with a team that fully relied on KJ to make the plays (like the Suns did for Nash) he can get 12+ again
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Re: #44 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Why the hell do the assists even matter? It's not like there is a being in this world who would think KJ was a better passer then Nash, and that's because he wasn't and it wasn't close either. KJ was a good passer, but I don't know if I've ever seen someone rank him top 10, and definitely not top 5 ever. Where Nash is pretty much universally accepted as one of the three or four best passers ever.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: #44 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by GP_20
Not mentioning that KJ had playmakers on his team that were dishing 6+ assists per game while Nash had....no other playmakers on his team thus Nash got all his team's assists?
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You're the one making the argument. You should be the one to include every point relevant. Comparing decimal differences in assists while neglecting drastic pace differences isn't a complete argument.
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ISH's Negro Historian
Re: #44 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Elvin Hayes.
I don't think the Kevin Johnson vote will work this time Glove. KJ is a good player, but not top 45 All-Time good.
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ISH's Negro Historian
Re: #44 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by GP_20
If he got 12+ assists while he was playing with another playmaker which often set the offense and got 6 assists for himself...then yes with a team that fully relied on KJ to make the plays (like the Suns did for Nash) he can get 12+ again
So you're basically saying KJ would avg damn near 20 assist with Nash's Suns since he didn't have another playmaker?
KJ got beat out of All-NBA 1st teams guard by not only Jordan, Drexler, Stockton and Magic but Timmy Hardaway and Mark Price. Explain that buddy.
Last edited by L.Kizzle; 09-25-2012 at 02:18 AM.
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Game. Set. Match.
Re: #44 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
How did Isiah end up 25th?!? And LeBron at 11th?
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NBA Legend
Re: #44 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by bdreason
How did Isiah end up 25th?!? And LeBron at 11th?
Are you gona keep whining about it in every thread?
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Re: #44 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Dwight Howard
-Led 2009 Magic to the NBA Finals
-6x NBA Allstar
-3x DPOY
-3rd Best player in the NBA in 2009 and 2010 after LeBron, Wade
-4x all nba defensive 1st team
-5x All NBA 1st team
-1x All Nba 2nd team
-Best player on the 2012-2013 Lakers
-1 Gold Medal
-18.4 PPG 13.0 RPG 2.2 BPG Career Averages
Anyone honestly think replacing Dwight Howard with dudes like kevin johnson makes those magic teams better? LOL
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Local High School Star
Re: #44 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
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NBA Legend
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7-time NBA All-Star
Re: #44 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by GP_20
About time. About 15-20 spots late though.
Kevin Johnson
His career is about the same level as Nash's. Needs to be voted in.
So not only do you think Gary Payton is a top 30 player of all-time but Kevin Johnson is a top 45 player of all-time? Not only that, but you're acting like it's some huge travesty Payton wasn't voted in the top 30 and Kevin Johnson hasn't been voted in, yet.
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Local High School Star
Re: #44 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Dominique Wilkins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfLjD5ft6o4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA3AVlAuDX8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noYgyOEmCzw
He'd go on equal footing with MJ and Bird, regular season or playoffs, etc.. Toe to toe against them in their primes. Just a level beyond anyone left.
You guys are going to name Kevin Johnson and others, but they were not in the class of Dominique Wilkins. Oh how people forget.
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Good High School Starter
Re: #44 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
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