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Old 03-17-2009, 11:13 PM   #1
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Default Obama tells military vets to pay for their own ****

If you're a military veteran and have suffered disabilities connected to your service, the Obama Administration wants to let your private insurance foot the bill, not the VA.


Basically that means that veterans who do have private insurance, will see their rates sky-rocket and there will be aging veterans, older WW2/Korean vets, and even younger generation veterans as well, that simply wouldn't be able to afford any care for their service-connected injuries.



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The leader of the nation's largest veterans organization says he is "deeply disappointed and concerned" after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.

"It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan," said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion. "He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it."

The Commander, clearly angered as he emerged from the session said, "This reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate ' to care for him who shall have borne the battle' given that the United States government sent members of the armed forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies. I say again that The American Legion does not and will not support any plan that seeks to bill a veteran for treatment of a service connected disability at the very agency that was created to treat the unique need of America's veterans!"

Commander Rehbein was among a group of senior officials from veterans service organizations joining the President, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki and Steven Kosiak, the overseer of defense spending at the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). The group's early afternoon conversation at The White House was precipitated by a letter of protest presented to the President earlier this month. The letter, co-signed by Commander Rehbein and the heads of ten colleague organizations, read, in part, " There is simply no logical explanation for billing a veteran's personal insurance for care that the VA has a responsibility to provide. While we understand the fiscal difficulties this country faces right now, placing the burden of those fiscal problems on the men and women who have already sacrificed a great deal for this country is unconscionable."

Commander Rehbein reiterated points made last week in testimony to both House and Senate Veterans' Affairs Committees. It was stated then that The American Legion believes that the reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate that VA treat service-connected injuries and disabilities given that the United States government sends members of the armed forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies. The proposed requirement for these companies to reimburse the VA would not only be unfair, says the Legion, but would have an adverse impact on service-connected disabled veterans and their families. The Legion argues that, depending on the severity of the medical conditions involved, maximum insurance coverage limits could be reached through treatment of the veteran's condition alone. That would leave the rest of the family without health care benefits. The Legion also points out that many health insurance companies require deductibles to be paid before any benefits are covered. Additionally, the Legion is concerned that private insurance premiums would be elevated to cover service-connected disabled veterans and their families, especially if the veterans are self-employed or employed in small businesses unable to negotiate more favorable across-the-board insurance policy pricing. The American Legion also believes that some employers, especially small businesses, would be reluctant to hire veterans with service-connected disabilities due to the negative impact their employment might have on obtaining and financing company health care benefits.

"I got the distinct impression that the only hope of this plan not being enacted," said Commander Rehbein, "is for an alternative plan to be developed that would generate the desired $540-million in revenue. The American Legion has long advocated for Medicare reimbursement to VA for the treatment of veterans. This, we believe, would more easily meet the President's financial goal. We will present that idea in an anticipated conference call with White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel in the near future.

"I only hope the administration will really listen to us then. This matter has far more serious ramifications than the President is imagining," concluded the Commander.
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:15 AM   #2
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You are so weird
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:27 AM   #3
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You are so weird
He's probably writing this from outside the whitehouse in the bushes...
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:29 AM   #4
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notice he never puts links? He probably sits and writes this sh!t himself JUST so he can spread the rumor around
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:37 AM   #5
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:39 AM   #6
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No link to back this up? If Obama really does this, it would severly hurt his chances at a second term, even if the economy does improve.
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:40 AM   #7
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He probably got it from Obamasucks.com or neoconcentral.com or some **** like that
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:46 AM   #8
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In general i'm an Obama supporter, but one thing i'm not a big fan of is the bank bailout money. How in the hell is that supposed to help us anyways?
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:49 AM   #9
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In general i'm an Obama supporter, but one thing i'm not a big fan of is the bank bailout money. How in the hell is that supposed to help us anyways?

fantastic question!
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Old 03-18-2009, 01:08 AM   #10
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yeah dirk stojakovic is a douche bag.
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Old 03-18-2009, 01:09 AM   #11
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In general i'm an Obama supporter, but one thing i'm not a big fan of is the bank bailout money. How in the hell is that supposed to help us anyways?

because if you're American the backbone of your economy is finance.

if your backbone is broken you are a cripple.

do you want to see America become crippled?

Who will push the wheelchair?
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Old 03-18-2009, 01:16 AM   #12
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because if you're American the backbone of your economy is finance.

if your backbone is broken you are a cripple.

do you want to see America become crippled?

Who will push the wheelchair?
When the banks had the money they were still crippled by their crooked practices. Fixing the problem at its root should be the bigger focus so that we're not dumping more money and fostering more corruption.
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:15 AM   #13
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In general i'm an Obama supporter, but one thing i'm not a big fan of is the bank bailout money. How in the hell is that supposed to help us anyways?
why is that on obama? he wasnt president when it passed.
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:19 AM   #14
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didn't Bush pass this into law?
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:25 AM   #15
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This is definitely true, it's not some made up extreme right smear. Pretty disgusting thing to propose, no matter how much money it'd save taxpayers. I don't even know how you'd expect such a thing to be passed, unless that's the point. Reach some sort of compromise like allowing the VA to bill Medicare.
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