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Old 12-07-2017, 11:26 AM   #31
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Exactly. Like no one mentions how the 90s couldn't field a competitive team outside of MJ Bulls.

In '94, the 3rd, 4th and 5th best records were Eastern Conference teams.

In '95, the 2nd place Magic had a better record than any Western Conference team.

In '96, the 2nd place Magic had a better record than any Western Conference team.

In 2014, the 3rd place team in the Eastern Conference wouldn't have even made the playoffs had they played in the West.

Kinda the same, yeah.
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Old 12-07-2017, 11:47 AM   #32
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That's not true.

Also, when adjusted for 'the Eastern Conference was complete dogshit for the past decade', his numerous finals appearances are shown for what they really are... A cakewalk special to the finals every season.

But, you know, 20 years from now nobody will remember that the East didn't field a competitive team outside of a LeBron led roster for the vast majority of the 2010's, so he's got that going for him.
That's cool and all, but how does that factor into the fact that LeBron is just as dominant now, at 33, as he was at 25 or 26? Dude is still the best player in the World at 33 and 15 seasons in. Also, no other player in the history of the game has as much mileage as LeBron at the same age.
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Old 12-07-2017, 11:57 AM   #33
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That's cool and all, but how does that factor into the fact that LeBron is just as dominant now, at 33, as he was at 25 or 26? Dude is still the best player in the World at 33 and 15 seasons in. Also, no other player in the history of the game has as much mileage as LeBron at the same age.

Oh he's good, don't get me wrong. Top 3 in my eyes.

But his finals appearances are a farce. That's all.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:01 PM   #34
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Oh he's good, don't get me wrong. Top 3 in my eyes.

But his finals appearances are a farce. That's all.
Were the Lakers' '87 and '88 runs a farce as well? Lets not forget that Jordan made the PO's on a 30 win team.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:04 PM   #35
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In '94, the 3rd, 4th and 5th best records were Eastern Conference teams.

In '95, the 2nd place Magic had a better record than any Western Conference team.

In '96, the 2nd place Magic had a better record than any Western Conference team.

In 2014, the 3rd place team in the Eastern Conference wouldn't have even made the playoffs had they played in the West.

Kinda the same, yeah.

I kinda said the whole 90s couldn't field a competitive team outside MJ Bulls, the west and east were chit... watered down era, where all the 80s superstar got old/injured/HIV ridden.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:07 PM   #36
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LeBron can do nothing to catch up to Jordan merely with regular seasons anymore. He needs the playoffs to make up the difference.

Right now he's just going all in trying to get his 5th MVP, because he knows this will likely be one of his last best chances to catch Jordan in that category.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:12 PM   #37
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Crazy to me how people can hate on LeBron and everything he's accomplished in his career. Dude's still the best player in the world at age 33 and in his 15th season.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:16 PM   #38
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Crazy to me how people can hate on LeBron and everything he's accomplished in his career. Dude's still the best player in the world at age 33 and in his 15th season.

Yeah hating LeBron is dumb. Saying Kobe was better is dumb. Saying anyone currently playing is better is dumb. But saying LeBron is top 5 all time is a little dumb too.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:19 PM   #39
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Yeah hating LeBron is dumb. Saying Kobe was better is dumb. Saying anyone currently playing is better is dumb. But saying LeBron is top 5 all time is a little dumb too.

Stop trying so hard.

He is consensus top 3, get over it.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:23 PM   #40
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Yeah hating LeBron is dumb. Saying Kobe was better is dumb. Saying anyone currently playing is better is dumb. But saying LeBron is top 5 all time is a little dumb too.
Who are the 5 players who are better than LeBron?
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:25 PM   #41
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Were the Lakers' '87 and '88 runs a farce as well? Lets not forget that Jordan made the PO's on a 30 win team.

Wasn't Boston pretty good around that time?
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:25 PM   #42
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I kinda said the whole 90s couldn't field a competitive team outside MJ Bulls, the west and east were chit... watered down era, where all the 80s superstar got old/injured/HIV ridden.

Well...

Yeah, can't really argue against that.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:30 PM   #43
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Wasn't Boston pretty good around that time?
The Spurs and Warriors were as well. Only difference being the Lakers had a significantly better team than what LeBron had.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:47 PM   #44
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He's got to catch Kareem first.

In support of Lebron, I think it is incredible hpw he manages to keep up with the way the game has changed from the beginning of his career to the present. Dude can actually shoot 3's.

Anyway, he has surpassed the Magic / Bird level.....Onward and upward. Next up, Kareem.
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Already happened after 2004
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