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Old Today, 10:23 AM   #586
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I think it's easy to point towards Gobert.

Unless you watched the game and saw that most of the damage was when Gobert was pulled early in the 2nd half because Snyder thinks he is smarter than everyone else

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as I was watching video of the Bucks' rim scores, I expected to find more instances on these paint buckets where Gobert could have challenged more effectively. Instead, I found a lot of loose gambles or shoddy effort by his teammates on the perimeter, giving Gobert no real opportunity to defend. I understand why Sefolosha makes this gamble, but it's a low percentage play that Milwaukee takes advantage of really easily.

But at least they are getting more steals!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ricky Rubio makes these sorts of mistakes frequently, so too does Donovan Mitchell, who hasn't been reliably holding up his end of the defensive bargain.

So what is it that Rubio actually brings to the team than his irreplaceable mentoring of Mitchell?

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unlike much of the game two weeks ago, the Bucks dropped off on some Rubio pick and rolls, daring him to shoot or make a pass into traffic.

there's a novel idea
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Old Today, 10:32 AM   #587
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Saturday was their fourth game in six nights, and they looked like a team playing with tired legs.

at least there is always the never ending excuses

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Hood is nearing a return. He’s doing more work in shootaround and pregame. He’s walking better, and he says the pain has subsided in large part. According to sources, there is a chance Hood will be able to play on Wednesday night in Chicago.

That's my guess. I figured even if he was close they'd give him the extra days coming up. So things could get worse before they get better

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Jazz backup point guard Raul Neto left the game for good in the first half due to concussion-like symptoms and didn’t return.

hopefully 3 days will be enough time t get him back. He's needed!
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Old Today, 10:37 AM   #588
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losses are almost never on a singular player or unit. It would be disingenuous to solely blame the starting lineup of the Utah Jazz for Saturday’s 117-100 loss to the Bucks.

Snyder completely!

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Much of the focus the past few days has been on Utah’s starting lineup — but in truth, personnel didn’t matter Saturday night.

Of course it did! If someone besides Favors is playing the 4 they are a better team. If someone other than Rubio plays they are better. It's not hard to see that unless you don't want to see it.

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“It felt like they took that last loss personally,” Mitchell said.

imagine that

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Utah suffered yet another injury, losing point guard Raul Neto to concussion-like symptoms.

his 4th different injury in a short time.

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“Milwaukee had their way with us early,” Jazz coach Quin Snyder said. “If we start games like that, it’s very difficult against a good team to come back on the road.”

So what the **** are you and your GM buddy going to do about it!!!!!!!!!
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Old Today, 11:52 AM   #590
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If there is a change that is going to made by Quin Snyder, he has to be right. There is no leeway on this and that is what makes it so difficult. Is the three game losing streak simply because something in the starting lineup of Ricky Rubio, Donovan Mitchell, Joe Ingles, Derrick Favors and Rudy Gobert doesn’t work? Are you certain? Because the one-big lineup when Rudy Gobert was out only played one game against a defense that was ranked in the top 15 (Philadelphia) and the Jazz had an offensive rating of 85.7 in that game, which is far worse than the Jazz have had in any of the last three games. The last three games, the Jazz have played the Thunder (#4 defense), the Rockets (#5 defense) and the Bucks (8th best sine the Bledsoe trade). Are you certain that the lineup is the issue?

When they were playing good Rubio's minutes and role was limited. Favors was in a role suited for him and he isn't now. Their problems start and finish with the roster.

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The second thing you have to do if you think you have identified the problem is have a solution The solution has to be right. Again, if you make a dramatic move and it isn’t right, you have a real problem.

What problem will they have? Dropping from 7th to 9th and have a better roster in the long term?

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So what is the solution? It might be the two bigs together, but both of those players deserve to start and deserve minutes.

You answered your own question. They are both starters. One of them has to go. It's obvious which one if you've paid attention for the past 3 seasons.

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In the previous bullet, we brought some doubt that the one-big lineup is really fool proof. Is it the point guard? He is the same point guard who was at the helm of the offensive explosion over the 12-game stretch.

and his minutes and role were reduced. He was back with the ball in his hands last night instead of spotting up in the corner and playing more minutes than everyone despite being the worst option on the whole team! To be fair he wasn't horrible last night but he certainly wasn't good

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Moreover, what is your solution? Donovan Mitchell played eight games as a point guard in his college career. He may very well turn out to be a point guard in the NBA, but up to this moment Quin Snyder has used him in that roll very carefully and in the right moments with the right responsibility. If you believe Donovan is a Damian Lillard type, which he might be, then let’s remember that Damian had been a point guard for four years of college, came to Portland who had an All-star on the roster in LaMarcus Aldridge and they won 33 games when he was a rookie.

And? I realize you work for the Jazz and know these guys personally and that's always been a problem for the Jazz. They can't do business when it needs to be done. Favors has to go. Even if it's a buy-out! He just has to. He will not be back so why not start the future now even if it makes the team worse in the short term which is hard to foresee happening. Already lost Bolomboy because they couldn't make the difficult decisions.

Rubio needs to be traded if he can for whatever you can get or bought out so he can go back to Spain. I'm guessing he could get a lot of money to go back there so they might actually be able to so good on a buyout. He can't be happy sotting up in the corner. Or he needs to be benched behind Mitchell and Neto. Square pegs don't fit in round holes no matter how much you try to force them to

Hood needs to go if he can't play team ball. Even if he could with his injuries and upcoming payday why keep him other than the fact that he went to Duke?

Johnson will likely need to go because he is also a ball stopper and likely won't be back assuming he even has anything left in the tank.

Udoh needs to go because he is one dimensional and Bradly looks like he will need a shot soon.

Exum can go and I won't be heartbroken by it. He should have went instead of Bolomboy already

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There is not an easy answer other than there is a chance the Jazz have played three teams in a row that are better than they are. The Thunder have their issues, but that was one of the toughest schedule games of the year, the Rockets are great and the Bucks will likely have home court advantage in the East in the first round of the playoffs.

The answers are easy. I don't know what they can get for the guys above but they will be better off without them on the roster regardless of the return. They were up 17 on the Thunder in the 3rd! Against the Rockets they started to get some momentum and Snyder killed it by putting in Rubio for Neto. Last night the coach lost it at the beginning of the first two halves. Keep making excuses. They were winnable games

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Rodney Hood’s ankle soreness is complicating all of these issues.

Yeah Burks playing like an all-star complicates things when he gets benched for Hood.

But Hood, Johnson and Exum with Burks, Neto and Jerebko on the bench will make them better!

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The Jazz get a day off and two practices before embarking on a brutal stretch of games. December is really tough.

love when the excuses start before they even play!

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Old Today, 12:06 PM   #591
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All of this is true, but people should not forget how good Alec Burks has been. If he keeps playing like this, he will go on to have the best season of his career.

If he keeps playing like this he will be an all-star but the coach will bench him soon!
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