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Old 01-02-2009, 12:33 AM   #31
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Brett F. stunk it up in the last few games but he was the reason they got as far as they did in the 1st place.

no he wasnt. he just kept the mistakes down while they were having success and thomas jones ran very well. he wasnt making plays that just about every other QB in the league doesnt make.

peolpe seriously need to stop assigning a value to a QB based on the teams W-L record. Theres 22 damn positions on a football field and that doesnt even include special teams. The best QB in the world could easily go 5-11 or worse on a handful of NFL teams.
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Old 01-02-2009, 12:50 AM   #32
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no he wasnt. he just kept the mistakes down while they were having success and thomas jones ran very well. he wasnt making plays that just about every other QB in the league doesnt make.

peolpe seriously need to stop assigning a value to a QB based on the teams W-L record. Theres 22 damn positions on a football field and that doesnt even include special teams. The best QB in the world could easily go 5-11 or worse on a handful of NFL teams.

You obviously have never played the game of Football if you believe that the QB position is the same as any other position. What don't you realize that teams respect the Jets passing game leading to Jones getting less men in the box? QB is probably the most important position in any sport.
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I am split on this

I am happy that someone has the balls to call out the great "legendary" Favre for what he is...but I am not sure this should have been done in public...

and can any of you imagine if the would have been T.O. talking about Romo...

ESPN would be doing back flips ..."BREAKING NEWS!!!"
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Old 01-02-2009, 01:00 AM   #34
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You obviously have never played the game of Football if you believe that the QB position is the same as any other position. What don't you realize that teams respect the Jets passing game leading to Jones getting less men in the box? QB is probably the most important position in any sport.


no.

those are lazy ESPN talking points.

Thomas Jones succeeded because teams were afraid of Favre? So what was the reason he succeeded when he was playing with Rex Grossman?


Oh thats right. The QB has nothing to do with it. The Jets have a great run blocking line and Jones is a good back. Thats what it is. Favre has nothing to do with it. He's garbage.
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:17 AM   #35
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I thought it kinda funny that Jones called him out on Hot 97. I can't wait for Favre's diss song at Summer Jam.
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Old 01-02-2009, 03:35 PM   #36
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Jones shouldn't have called him out in public like that. But I agree with what he said completely. I've been tired of Favre for 4 years, so I'm a bit biased, but how does this guy get to lead the NFL in interceptions and yet go to the Pro Bowl? He is the living definition of the term "overrated."
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Old 01-02-2009, 03:56 PM   #37
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Brett Farve is waay overrated and has been since 1998... Guy is a turn over machine and again he costs his own team the season by being reckless with the football in a playoff game..

3 picks?

I'd hate the guy if he played as Qb here...

Ive seen him throw away more seasons being careless... I mean he'll just chuck that sh*t up in the 4th qtr throw the whole season away...

I dont blame Thomas Jones here...
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:33 PM   #38
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Well, as a general rule it's bad for morale to call him out publicly, especially if he comes back next year, then there may be locker room issues.
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:33 PM   #39
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no.

those are lazy ESPN talking points.

Thomas Jones succeeded because teams were afraid of Favre? So what was the reason he succeeded when he was playing with Rex Grossman?

You mean the same Rex Grossman who threw for 3000 yards in the only season he started a full 16 games with Jones?

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Old 01-02-2009, 04:36 PM   #40
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Well, as a general rule it's bad for morale to call him out publicly, especially if he comes back next year, then there may be locker room issues.

Agreed. This is my biggest issue with it. But also, Favre still put up some pretty good numbers for the amount of hate in this thread. In fact, his last 2 seasons have been better than the previous 2 before that, and yet he's garnished more hate than ever. It's just plain stupid.

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Year Team G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
2008 New York Jets 16 522 343 65.7 32.6 3,472 6.7 217.0 22 4.2 22 4.2 56T 40 7 30 213 81.0
2007 Green Bay Packers 16 535 356 66.5 33.4 4,155 7.8 259.7 28 5.2 15 2.8 82T 49 16 15 93 95.7
2006 Green Bay Packers 16 613 343 56.0 38.3 3,885 6.3 242.8 18 2.9 18 2.9 82T 49 8 21 134 72.7
2005 Green Bay Packers 16 607 372 61.3 37.9 3,881 6.4 242.6 20 3.3 29 4.8 59 40 7 24 170 70.9
2004 Green Bay Packers 16 540 346 64.1 33.8 4,088 7.6 255.5 30 5.6 17 3.1 79T 50 12 12 93 92.4
2003 Green Bay Packers 16 471 308 65.4 29.4 3,361 7.1 210.1 32 6.8 21 4.5 66T 42 7 19 137 90.4
2002 Green Bay Packers 16 551 341 61.9 34.4 3,658 6.6 228.6 27 4.9 16 2.9 85T 39 7 26 188 85.6
2001 Green Bay Packers 16 510 314 61.6 31.9 3,921 7.7 245.1 32 6.3 15 2.9 67T 53 13 22 151 94.1
2000 Green Bay Packers 16 580 338 58.3 36.2 3,812 6.6 238.2 20 3.4 16 2.8 67T 41 7 33 236 78.0
1999 Green Bay Packers 16 595 341 57.3 37.2 4,091 6.9 255.7 22 3.7 23 3.9 74T 52 11 35 223 74.7
1998 Green Bay Packers 16 551 347 63.0 34.4 4,212 7.6 263.2 31 5.6 23 4.2 84T 47 9 38 223 87.8
1997 Green Bay Packers 16 513 304 59.3 32.1 3,867 7.5 241.7 35 6.8 16 3.1 74 61 9 25 176 92.6
1996 Green Bay Packers 16 543 325 59.9 33.9 3,899 7.2 243.7 39 7.2 13 2.4 80T 49 11 40 241 95.8
1995 Green Bay Packers 16 570 359 63.0 35.6 4,413 7.7 275.8 38 6.7 13 2.3 99T 59 5 33 217 99.5
1994 Green Bay Packers 16 582 363 62.4 36.4 3,882 6.7 242.6 33 5.7 14 2.4 49 44 4 31 188 90.7
1993 Green Bay Packers 16 522 318 60.9 32.6 3,303 6.3 206.4 19 3.6 24 4.6 66T 37 5 30 199 72.2
1992 Green Bay Packers 15 471 302 64.1 31.4 3,227 6.9 215.1 18 3.8 13 2.8 76T 30 9 34 208 85.3
1991 Atlanta Falcons 2 4 0 0.0 2.0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0.0 2 50.0 0 0 0 1 11 0.0
TOTAL 273 9,280 5,720 61.6 34.0 65,127 7.0 238.6 464 5.0 310 3.3 99 782 147 469 3,101 85.4
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:49 PM   #41
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You mean the same Rex Grossman who threw for 3000 yards in the only season he started a full 16 games with Jones?

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which i believe is also a season in which he had like 4 games with a zero passer rating.


its not about numbers. you can manipulate stats to tell you anything. its about what you see. favre didnt do anything this year that 90% of other QB's in the league couldnt do in the same circumstance. he was an average quarterback. until it got to crunch time. then he was a below average one.

how did their season end in green bay last year? oh thats right, it was on a terrible pick by Favre in overtime. same old song and dance. he turns the ball over way too much. he's washed up. he's garbage. so long, brett.
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:22 PM   #42
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its not about numbers. you can manipulate stats to tell you anything. its about what you see. favre didnt do anything this year that 90% of other QB's in the league couldnt do in the same circumstance. he was an average quarterback. until it got to crunch time. then he was a below average one.

You're right. It IS about the things you can't see. Like the fact that Favre is a media icon. The fact that his coming excited the fans in NY. The fact that he motivates his teammates to do better, and shows the enthusiasm that most of us lost before we even hit high school.

And yes, contrary to what you want people to believe in this thread, Favre most definitely takes accountability for his own poor play. You can see it in the post game interviews. The difference is, he keeps on trying.

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You're right. It IS about the things you can't see. Like the fact that Favre is a media icon. The fact that his coming excited the fans in NY. The fact that he motivates his teammates to do better, and shows the enthusiasm that most of us lost before we even hit high school.

And yes, contrary to what you want people to believe in this thread, Favre most definitely takes accountability for his own poor play. You can see it in the post game interviews. The difference is, he keeps on trying.

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apparently he alienated himself from the team and none of them really viewed him as a team mate...
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:36 PM   #44
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What has Thomas Jones done is his Career to be at the level to insult arguably the best QB in history. How many times has Thomas Jones been selected for the Pro Bowl, How many Superbowl wins does he has? How many Mvp's does he has? Are you kidding me? Respect your veterans.
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:39 PM   #45
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No matter how much I hate Favre, TJ has and always will be a *****.
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