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Old 09-13-2011, 11:24 PM   #16
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I personally have Steve Smith as the best WR in the NFC South, but even if you don't place him that high he is definitely better than Marques Colston and Mike Williams. Having shitty QBs over the last 3-4 seasons is the only reason his #s suffered.
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Old 09-13-2011, 11:32 PM   #17
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As crazy as it sounds, Steve Smith would get my vote as the best wideout in the division as well - right on par with Roddy.

Too bad we never got to see Smith with a great quarterback in his prime.
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Old 09-13-2011, 11:32 PM   #18
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you have him better than Roddy White? lol come on dawg I know you like the Panthers and probably already have a Cam Newton jersey in a UPS truck on it's way to your house but COME ON SON
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:14 AM   #19
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you have him better than Roddy White? lol come on dawg I know you like the Panthers and probably already have a Cam Newton jersey in a UPS truck on it's way to your house but COME ON SON

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Steve Smith is living off of that one tremendous season. Yes, he's a great and talented player, but other than that one season, he's never been THE best receiver in his own conference, let alone the whole NFL.

I'd take Roddy, Colston and MW over Smith right now.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:25 AM   #20
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I think Kolb will unanimously be the best NFC West quarterback by the end of the season
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:35 PM   #21
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Steve Smith is living off of that one tremendous season. Yes, he's a great and talented player, but other than that one season, he's never been THE best receiver in his own conference, let alone the whole NFL.

I'd take Roddy, Colston and MW over Smith right now.

Are you serious? Even though he's dealt with injuries, Smith has been a beast since 03. The only thing thats held him back is the fact that his entire career he's had a bottom 5 starting QB in the league.

Who cares if he's been the best in the league or an entire conference this is about ranking among his division, and I say Smith has reigned supreme in that division for a good while.
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Old 09-15-2011, 05:51 PM   #22
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Roddy White has been better than Steve Smith for the last 3 seasons. This isn't 2005 anymore
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Old 09-15-2011, 06:25 PM   #23
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Roddy White has been better than Steve Smith for the last 3 seasons. This isn't 2005 anymore

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Steve Smith is a great player. But he's not elite or even in the top 3 in his own division now. Like I said, most people who think Steve Smith is an elite WR think he can put up the numbers he had in the mid-00s. He can't do that anymore. If he puts up 1,500 yards this year, I will bow down to you and him.

White (as much as it hurts to give him/a Falcons player props), Mike Williams and Marques Colston are all better.
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Old 09-16-2011, 02:13 PM   #24
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Steve Smith is a great player. But he's not elite or even in the top 3 in his own division now. Like I said, most people who think Steve Smith is an elite WR think he can put up the numbers he had in the mid-00s. He can't do that anymore. If he puts up 1,500 yards this year, I will bow down to you and him.

White (as much as it hurts to give him/a Falcons player props), Mike Williams and Marques Colston are all better.

Even if you disagree I have a simple question for you - Why are you making 1500 you're measuring stick for greatness? You do realize that since 05 (when Smith had 1500 yards) the only receivers who have put up those #s are Reggie Wayne and Andre Johnson.

The fact that when the QBs who have been throwing Smith the ball are Jake Delhomme, Matt Moore, and Jimmy Clausen, and he hasn't had a dependable pass-catching TE or 2nd WR Smith what chance did he have to rack up that many yards.
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I agree but still would take Roddy White over him in a heartbeat.
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Old 09-16-2011, 02:36 PM   #26
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Even if you disagree I have a simple question for you - Why are you making 1500 you're measuring stick for greatness? You do realize that since 05 (when Smith had 1500 yards) the only receivers who have put up those #s are Reggie Wayne and Andre Johnson.

The fact that when the QBs who have been throwing Smith the ball are Jake Delhomme, Matt Moore, and Jimmy Clausen, and he hasn't had a dependable pass-catching TE or 2nd WR Smith what chance did he have to rack up that many yards.

I was just throwing out a good number. If he puts up 1300 yards this year, I'll give him props. I just don't think he's the best WR in the division anymore.


And I do respect him b/c he almost always kills Tampa. And for him to have the type of career numbers he has is impressive. I just wouldn't say he's the best at the position in the division. That's all.
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Moss didn't do shot in Oakland, that's what Smith had to endure for most of his career. He will lead the league in receiving yards this year.

Mark it down, take a picture.
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Old 09-17-2011, 12:42 AM   #28
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Elite wide receivers put up numbers no matter the QB. Look at Calvin, Fitz and Andre pre-Schaub. Put up big numbers with crap. Heck, Roddy's breakout year was with Joey Harrington.

Smith needs to have a big year to even get back into the convo of elite receivers.
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Old 09-17-2011, 12:50 AM   #29
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Not sure why you mentioned Andre...he wasn't doing the type of numbers we are grown to seeing him put up without Shaub back there throwing him the ball.
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Not sure why you mentioned Andre...he wasn't doing the type of numbers we are grown to seeing him put up without Shaub back there throwing him the ball.
Schaub became the QB for Houston in 2007.

Andre as a rookie (2003) - 66 rec, 976 yards, 4 TDs - 16 GP
Andre's 2nd season (2004) - 79 rec, 1142 yards, 6 TDs - 16 GP
Andre's 3rd season (2005) - 63 rec, 688 yards, 2 TDs - 13 GP
Andre's 4th season (2006) - 103 rec, 1147 yards, 5 TDs - 16 GP

He was fine without him.
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