Kerr: Curry is more impactful than MJ

[Akhenaten]

Posting up a lot doesn't make a guy a great off the ball player. He did that all the time, especially in his 30s.

Standing on the perimeter waiting for Paxon's pass doesn't make him a great off the ball player.

When Jordan passed it was frequently to an open shooter who would take the shot. He wouldn't pass then run through screens the way Steph/Klay do now.

Jordan didn't shoot 3s much, or well, so his defenders had less court to cover.

@ the revisionist history from the Jordan stans.

Did you miss the part where he said you don't have to run around pin down screens and shoot a bunch of threes to be an elite ofball player

Jordan actually was excellent off pin downs and baseline screens shooting the midrange, that's neither here nor there though. A guy like Dwade is an EXCELLENT off the ball player even with a mediocre catch and shoot game, his off ball movement was to get layups and dunk though, it's just skinning the cat a different way.

Jordan was even better in that respect AND had an otherworldly catch and shoot game in the mid range. Some of really think y'all know basketball and don't know your heads from your behinds smh

[sbw19]

[COLOR=Teal]Nothing in what Kerr said is new or exactly mind-blowing. Curry is more impactful as a shooter, not as a scorer. But when you factor in the things that matter most: ability to make momentum-changing shots, taking care of the ball, Curry doesn't strike me as better than other ATGs he's better than as a shooter and ball-handler.
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[COLOR=Teal]And this is ignoring era and rule differences.[/COLOR]

[tontoz]

Did you miss the part where he said you don't have to run around pin down screens and shoot a bunch of threes to be an elite ofball player

Jordan actually was excellent off pin downs and baseline screens shooting the midrange, that's neither here nor there though. A guy like Dwade is an EXCELLENT off the ball player even with a mediocre catch and shoot game, his off ball movement was to get layups and dunk though, it's just skinning the cat a different way.

Jordan was even better in that respect AND had an otherworldly catch and shoot game in the mid range. Some of really think y'all know basketball and don't know your heads from your behinds smh

Cutting to the basket is something all wings do. That is nothing special. Jordan and Wade are certainly better at it than most due to their athleticism but cutting to the basket doesn't make them great off the ball players.

If they are at the 3 point line guys can sag off them without fear. They make the court smaller for the defense.

Nobody is leaving Steph behind the line. He frequently gets double teamed without the ball when he comes off a screen behind the line.

Jordan had the ball in his hands more than anyone in NBA history. Hard to be a great off the ball player when the ball is in your hands more than anyone else.

[Hey Yo]

offensively he is. I have said that CURRY is the offensive GOAT.. Still his team will lose vs the EAST..

They are just missing too many players imo.. Durant, West, Mcgee from last seasons team.. And KD and Cousins from this years team..

If he can win a title this season than he has to get consideration for TOP 10 ALL TIME..

[OldSchoolBBall]

Posting up a lot doesn't make a guy a great off the ball player. He did that all the time, especially in his 30s.

Standing on the perimeter waiting for Paxon's pass doesn't make him a great off the ball player.

When Jordan passed it was frequently to an open shooter who would take the shot. He wouldn't pass then run through screens the way Steph/Klay do now.

Jordan didn't shoot 3s much, or well, so his defenders had less court to cover.

@ the revisionist history from the Jordan stans.

lol @ you thinking that Jordan's off-ball game consisted of standing in the post waiting for a pass or standing on the perimeter waiting for a pass.

[Hey Yo]

They won 72 the next full season with MJ, so STFU. And won 69 and 64 games the following two seasons with MJ, so STFU again.

What happen when he came back with 17 games left in the season to try to win another ring the cheapest way possible?

[tontoz]

lol @ you thinking that Jordan's off-ball game consisted of standing in the post waiting for a pass or standing on the perimeter waiting for a pass.

That isn't all he did, but he did both a lot. That is just a fact.

I remember Steve Smith being interviewed and he said Jordan was easier to cover than Reggie Miller. Reggie was constantly running around screens wearing Smith out.

Jordan did do that. Jordan went to work after he got the ball and he had the ball more than anyone in NBA history. Cutting without the ball was not the norm for him. The norm was having the ball or waiting for the ball.

[Showtime80']

Here's a nice little MJ off ball compilation for what it's worth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM2X5QlJCHk

[sportjames23]

lol @ you thinking that Jordan's off-ball game consisted of standing in the post waiting for a pass or standing on the perimeter waiting for a pass.

Right?

For the uninitiated, MJ's off-ball game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM2X5QlJCHk

edit: Showtime beat me to it.

[sportjames23]

What happen when he came back with 17 games left in the season to try to win another ring the cheapest way possible?

He didn't form a super team, so I don't know how coming back late in the season almost TWO WHOLE years away and not being in great basketball shape is trying to win a ring in the cheapest way possible.

Bron got ya'll stans so messed up, you really believe the shit you say.

[Showtime80']

LOL at MJ not being covered at the 3 point line!!! Listen to what MJ says at the start of the video, basically a prophetic look at what the modern horrible NBA has become, a bunch of guys standing around the 3 point line waiting for kick outs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJzbrBUFB4Y&t=136s

MJ represented the same danger as Steph Curry as long as he was ON THE FLOOR even without the ball. Unlike Steph Curry, MJ could put your team in early foul trouble with his constant pressure up the middle, something a volume 3 point shooter just doesn't do.

[tontoz]

Here's a nice little MJ off ball compilation for what it's worth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM2X5QlJCHk

That's what you call great off the ball play, taking 3 steps at half speed before receiving the ball?

I couldn't get halfway through the vid without laughing.

If you guys think that is great off the ball play we will have to agree to disagree.

[Showtime80']

LOL at MJ not being covered at the 3 point line!!! The guy would've been guarded sitting on the bench if it were allowed! He just had the most insane hangtime in history that allowed him to shoot over ANYBODY that was assigned to him.

Listen to what MJ says at the start of the video, basically a prophetic look at what the modern horrible NBA has become, a bunch of guys standing around the 3 point line waiting for kick outs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJzbrBUFB4Y&t=136s

MJ represented the same danger as Steph Curry as long as he was ON THE FLOOR even without the ball. Unlike Steph Curry, MJ could put your team in early foul trouble with his constant pressure up the middle, something a volume 3 point shooter just doesn't do.

[sportjames23]

That's what you call great off the ball play, taking 3 steps at half speed before receiving the ball?

I couldn't get halfway through the vid without laughing.

If you guys think that is great off the ball play we will have to agree to disagree.

SMH at this foolishness.

[Showtime80']

Again Tontoz, MJ was 6'6, incredibly strong, cat quick and with the most insane hang time EVER!!! He didn't need as much space as Curry or Miller to get a great look at the basket.

Now if want to argue pound for pound in a vacuum, I agree that Curry and Reggie move better without the ball but they needed to be better to be successful, Michael Jordan didn't.