Which 5 teams have had the worst off-season so far?

[NugzFan]

Thunder had one of the best offseasons, dummy.

Lol really? Id like to hear this explanation.

Unless you meant one of the top 26 or 27 offseasons.

[ImKobe]

Lakers?

They got better and made the right moves that will provide them cap space in the future. This year's team of course isn't a title contender (at least not looking like one on paper), but the better FA years are coming up and we'll have the space to sign better players than we could have gotten this year (30 yr old Melo on a 100m deal? no thanks).

[NugzFan]

They got better and made the right moves that will provide them cap space in the future. This year's team of course isn't a title contender (at least not looking like one on paper), but the better FA years are coming up and we'll have the space to sign better players than we could have gotten this year (30 yr old Melo on a 100m deal? no thanks).

Getting better when your on the bottom is not difficult. There is no way the lakers had a good offseason. At best neutral. They were going to have a better team simply by the fact that they couldn't get worse.

Better FA are coming up? Better than the FA of this summer?

Sounds exactly like what the lakers and their fans want to believe.

[fragokota]

Rockets(by far i think),Nets,Pacers,Thunder

Feel free to add the 5th

[ImKobe]

Getting better when your on the bottom is not difficult. There is no way the lakers had a good offseason. At best neutral. They were going to have a better team simply by the fact that they couldn't get worse.

Better FA are coming up? Better than the FA of this summer?

Sounds exactly like what the lakers and their fans want to believe.

Lebron we had 0 chance of getting, it was reported all year it would be between Cleveland and Miami, Lakers were rumored to go after him and they did try, but it was obvious that we had no shot

Melo was our biggest and basically the only target during the whole season that everyone talked about, Melo wanted to stay in NY because of his family and because he got 125 mil, LA couldn't top that and I'm glad he didn't choose the Lakers


Lakers had the 6th pick and chose a player that was considered a top 3 pick a year ago, got two solid bigs for peanuts, got Hill back, got Young back after he had a pretty decent year(for his standards), got Lin + a pick for NOTHING

How was this so bad for us? We used our cap wisely. Jordan Hill got 9m but it's for one year, Young got a little more than expected but he's a good player to have off the bench, other players are signed for peanuts. Kobe's coming back.

What is there to whine about? We did everything possible with the tools that were given. You're not going to go from a lottery team to a Finals contender in one season(in the West that is). Even with Melo we'd be average, considering how much he would have cost.

[NugzFan]

Like I said you were going to be better only because you can't be worse.

If someone said before the offseason the lakers would pick up some average vets, draft rankle and be in contention for the 10th seed next season while maintaining some future cap space, how many laker fans would consider it good or be excited for that?

It's neutral at best. The lakers passed on this summer hoping for a bigger one in the future.

[hawksdogsbraves]

You can't argue that the Lakers had a good offseason. They had tons of cap room and a very real chance to put a good team together around Kobe for his last run. Instead, they couldn't GIVE money away.

Pau left for less money. Melo and LeBron laughed in their faces. They weren't in the mix for Parsons or Hayward, and didn't even try for Lance Stephenson even though he wound up being pretty cheap. They ended up with Lin, Randle, Boozer, and Nick Young, hardly an all-star cast.

For a normal team this would have been a poor off-season. For the Lakers, the greatest franchise ever, trying desperately to not send Kobe off into the sunset on a team full of backups and losers, it was terrible.

Also, the Hawks had a god awful offseason. Tons of cap room and we wind up with Thabo Sefolosha??? We gave away Lou Williams for nothing. We struck out big time on Pau and Deng. Awful stuff from Ferry after a great offseason in 2013.

[kshutts1]

Also, the Hawks had a god awful offseason. Tons of cap room and we wind up with Thabo Sefolosha??? We gave away Lou Williams for nothing. We struck out big time on Pau and Deng. Awful stuff from Ferry after a great offseason in 2013.

It is crazy what you consider a bad offseason. Are you upset that you didn't pay Hayward or Parsons the max? Really? And are you really upset that you spent an offseason keeping your core intact? Your best player was out last year and you made the playoffs, found a new identity (that he fits in to perfectly), and added a good complimentary piece. That's a bad offseason?

[hawkfan]

It is crazy what you consider a bad offseason. Are you upset that you didn't pay Hayward or Parsons the max? Really? And are you really upset that you spent an offseason keeping your core intact? Your best player was out last year and you made the playoffs, found a new identity (that he fits in to perfectly), and added a good complimentary piece. That's a bad offseason?

Deng would have been a big improvement at small forward, and his signing would have pushed us into contention for winning the Eastern Conference.

That would have given us Horford-Millsap-Teague-Korver-Deng, 5 guys who can score 15-20 points on any given night. Deng is definitely a step above Carroll.

Pau Gasol - I don't think we had any real chance there. That was a waste of time and a fool's errand.

But we can hold onto our cap space and if the Knicks start out slow and then go into tear up the roster mode, we can trade for Andrea Bargnani, who could help spread the floor from the center position.

[kshutts1]

Deng would have been a big improvement at small forward, and his signing would have pushed us into contention for winning the Eastern Conference.

That would have given us Horford-Millsap-Teague-Korver-Deng, 5 guys who can score 15-20 points on any given night. Deng is definitely a step above Carroll.

Pau Gasol - I don't think we had any real chance there. That was a waste of time and a fool's errand.

But we can hold onto our cap space and if the Knicks start out slow and then go into tear up the roster mode, we can trade for Andrea Bargnani, who could help spread the floor from the center position.

I'd rather have...

Teague
Thabo
Korver
Millsap
Horford

Thabo is not a better player than Deng, but he's a better fit. Korver is not a SG, at least not on D. Granted, he will hurt you on D anywhere, but Thabo is a better defender than Deng, or at least comparable, and can hit the corner 3 better. So now what I've done to improve your starting 5 is add more shooting while keeping the D similar.

Horford, Teague and Thabo anchor the D while Millsap and Korver are more specialists. Very, very good specialists. I see Atlanta being a top 4 regular season team.

[kshutts1]

Just did some research on Deng's new contract. He's not worth 10m a year. Only two years, which is nice, but he's not worth that. He's a plus on D, but a neutral on O. For a player that can't create his shot, he doesn't have enough range to be incredibly useful.

[hawkfan]

I'd rather have...

Teague
Thabo
Korver
Millsap
Horford

Thabo is not a better player than Deng, but he's a better fit. Korver is not a SG, at least not on D. Granted, he will hurt you on D anywhere, but Thabo is a better defender than Deng, or at least comparable, and can hit the corner 3 better. So now what I've done to improve your starting 5 is add more shooting while keeping the D similar.

Horford, Teague and Thabo anchor the D while Millsap and Korver are more specialists. Very, very good specialists. I see Atlanta being a top 4 regular season team.

We had enough cap space to sign Deng after we signed Sefolosha. Could have had both.

Could have had Deng, Sefolosha, Carroll, Korver, Patterson, Jenkins at the wings. Very solid group.

[kshutts1]

We had enough cap space to sign Deng after we signed Sefolosha. Could have had both.

Could have had Deng, Sefolosha, Carroll, Korver, Patterson, Jenkins at the wings. Very solid group.

Didn't know that. That would be a solid group. However, I maintain that Deng is not worth 10m.

How do you feel about Marion? Do you still have cap space?

[hawkfan]

Didn't know that. That would be a solid group. However, I maintain that Deng is not worth 10m.

How do you feel about Marion? Do you still have cap space?

We have 9.5 million in cap space and 3 million in cap holds.
Marion on a one year deal for say $4 million would be a good pickup.

Doubt he will come here though - the Rockets have a lot of cap space by trading away Lin and Asik and not re-signing Parsons. Marion would be a good fit there next to Ariza and Howard in the front court. They can offer him more money and the chance to play with two superstars.

I could see the Rockets trading for Brandon Bass and Joel Anthony from the Celtics, both expirers, and then signing Marion as a free agent.

[hawkfan]

Just did some research on Deng's new contract. He's not worth 10m a year. Only two years, which is nice, but he's not worth that. He's a plus on D, but a neutral on O. For a player that can't create his shot, he doesn't have enough range to be incredibly useful.

He's definitely on the decline of his career, but he is still a better offensive player than Carroll, who is better suited to be a defensive specialist off the bench.