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Supporting casts in the finals rankings
Why is Robinson listed as the best player in 1999 for the Spurs and not Duncan?
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/w...porting-casts/
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Supporting casts in the finals rankings
Ditto Laimbeer over Isiah
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big time kobe stan
Re: Supporting casts in the finals rankings
No surprise Bron has had 3 of the worst ever Finals supporting casts.
Only a top 2 player all time could squeeze 3 rings out of the garbage he's had to work with throughout his career.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Supporting casts in the finals rankings
Originally Posted by JT123
No surprise Bron has had 3 of the worst ever Finals supporting casts.
The list shows that Jordan won with less - he won with less in 91' and 93' than Lebron won with in 12' and 13'
Infact, the list ranks Jordan's 1991 cast about the same as Lebron's 2014 cast.
But the list is complete bullshit - the list simply looks at production and equates that with talent, when having great teamwork and being a great TEAM helps production too.
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Last edited by 3ball; 07-12-2016 at 02:15 PM.
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Gif-ted
Re: Supporting casts in the finals rankings
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Supporting casts in the finals rankings
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
But it’s also a testament to James that he’s carried the load for two of the bottom three —
Lebron lowers the stats of his teammates, but the list doesn't consider whether teammates are playing to full capacity or not.
i.e. Wade, Bosh and Love don't play to full capacity next to Lebron, whereas Pippen and Grant played to full capacity next to Jordan (their stats were the same with and without him).
Btw, the list shows that Jordan won rings in 1991 and 1993 with weaker supporting casts than Lebron won with in 2012 and 2013.. Therefore, Jordan won with less than Lebron ever has.
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Gif-ted
Re: Supporting casts in the finals rankings
Jordan #1 stacked team ever.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Supporting casts in the finals rankings
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
Jordan #1 stacked team ever.
Is that why he had to carry the biggest scoring load ever (1), AND lead his team in passing (2), AND be the best defender ever at his position?
(1) No all-time great led their team in scoring for every playoff series of their careers, let alone by average margin of 15.4 ppg like Jordan
(2) Jordan led Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats, so he assisted on highest proportion of teammate FG's)
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Supporting casts in the finals rankings
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
Jordan #1 stacked team ever.
The list shows that Jordan won with less - he won with less in 91' and 93' than Lebron won with in 12' and 13'
Infact, the list ranks Jordan's 1991 cast about the same as Lebron's 2014 cast.
But the list is complete bullshit - the list simply looks at production and equates that with talent, when having great teamwork and being a great TEAM helps production too.
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Last edited by 3ball; 07-12-2016 at 02:14 PM.
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Gif-ted
Re: Supporting casts in the finals rankings
That's what tends to happen when you're the #1 usage player, aka ball hog, of all time @ 33.26
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Great college starter
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Supporting casts in the finals rankings
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The list shows that Jordan won with less - he won with less in 91' and 93' than Lebron won with in 12' and 13'
Infact, the list ranks Jordan's 1991 cast about the same as Lebron's 2014 cast.
But the list is complete bullshit - the list simply looks at production and equates that with talent, when having great teamwork and being a great TEAM helps production too.
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Last edited by 3ball; 07-12-2016 at 02:14 PM.
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Kevin Love
Re: Supporting casts in the finals rankings
Not surprised to see that Jordan had some of the most stacked teams ever.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Supporting casts in the finals rankings
Originally Posted by nba_55
Not surprised to see that Jordan had some of the most stacked teams ever.
The list shows that Jordan won with less - he won with less in 91' and 93' than Lebron won with in 12' and 13'
Infact, the list ranks Jordan's 1991 cast about the same as Lebron's 2014 cast.
But the list is complete bullshit - the list simply looks at production and equates that with talent, when having great teamwork and being a great TEAM helps production too.
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Laker Nation
Re: Supporting casts in the finals rankings
Lebron with some of the weakest supporting casts in the finals and still managed to win 3.
MJ with the best supporting cast ever. No surprise there.
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