if LeBron wins the title this year, does he move in the Top 5?

**BigTicket** · 06-04-2013, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by Crafty

No, If he wins he will get into top 10.

Agreed.

For top 5 I think he needs 3+ rings.

**2010splash** · 06-04-2013, 11:09 AM

Of course, easily. Everyone puts Wilt in the top 5 and yet he has 4 MVP's and 2 titles (1 Finals MVP). LeBron will have 4 MVP's and 2 titles (2 Finals MVP's) and was way more instrumental to his team's success in his second title than Wilt was in his second title. Barely in the top 10 is just a joke. LeBron is the most dominant non-Jordan player ever and will have the accolades and hardware now as well.

Only player clearly ahead of him after a ring is Jordan. After a title, he's as high as #2 and as low as #4.

**chazzy** · 06-04-2013, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by 2010splash

Of course, easily. Everyone puts Wilt in the top 5 and yet he has 4 MVP's and 2 titles (1 Finals MVP). LeBron will have 4 MVP's and 2 titles (2 Finals MVP's) and was way more instrumental to his team's success in his second title than Wilt was in his second title. Barely in the top 10 is just a joke. LeBron is the most dominant non-Jordan player ever and will have the accolades and hardware now as well.

Only player clearly ahead of him after a ring is Jordan. After a title, he's as high as #2 and as low as #4.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...5&postcount=63

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...0&postcount=50

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...9&postcount=52

**Fudge** · 06-04-2013, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by 2010splash

Of course, easily. Everyone puts Wilt in the top 5 and yet he has 4 MVP's and 2 titles (1 Finals MVP). LeBron will have 4 MVP's and 2 titles (2 Finals MVP's) and was way more instrumental to his team's success in his second title than Wilt was in his second title. Barely in the top 10 is just a joke. LeBron is the most dominant non-Jordan player ever and will have the accolades and hardware now as well.

Only player clearly ahead of him after a ring is Jordan. After a title, he's as high as #2 and as low as #4.

Lebron stans have got to be the worst... And yes, worse than Kobe stans.

**Fudge** · 06-04-2013, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by chazzy

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...5&postcount=63

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...0&postcount=50

**2010splash** · 06-04-2013, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Fudge

Lebron stans have got to be the worst... And yes, worse than Kobe stans.

You have got to be the worst. Blindly throwing out smiley emoticons because your argument is weak. I give a perfect example of the idiotic hypocrisy of Wilt Chamberlain being universally regarded as a top 3-5 player all-time while LeBron James with an identical career resume (and a more impressive second title run) somehow "just moves into the top 10" and people with no argument like you respond "LeBron stans are the worst because they disagree with my flawed logic."

**tpols** · 06-04-2013, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by 2010splash

You have got to be the worst. Blindly throwing out smiley emoticons because your argument is weak. I give a perfect example of the idiotic hypocrisy of Wilt Chamberlain being universally regarded as a top 3-5 player all-time while LeBron James with an identical career resume (and a more impressive second title run) somehow "just moves into the top 10" and people with no argument like you respond "LeBron stans are the worst because they disagree with my flawed logic."

Youre a fvcking idiot dude and no one respects your opinion.

**2010splash** · 06-04-2013, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by tpols

Youre a fvcking idiot dude and no one respects your opinion.

Don't cry because I rip your grade school arguments to shreds clown.

**nightprowler10** · 06-04-2013, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Doranku

I'll never understand why there are so many people who put Bird in their Immortal 6 when Duncan and arguably Shaq were better players/had longer, more successful careers.

Larry Legend could arguably have had a much more successful career if not for Magic's Lakers. Though I like how you question Larry's inclusion but not Magic's, who had a stacked team himself.

I'm certainly not gonna hold his bad back against him. He tried like hell to play with injuries but just couldn't do it anymore.

**gengiskhan** · 06-04-2013, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by BigTicket

Agreed.

For top 5 I think he needs 3+ rings.

This!

10th Position of GOAT is LOCKED!

4 x MVPs
2 x FMVPs
1 x ROTY

all means this....

1. jordan
2. Wilt
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Bird
6 Russell
7. Hakeem
8. Shaq
9. Big O
10.LBJ

3-peat will put him over Big O shaq & Hakeem.

very close to bird & russell.

**chazzy** · 06-04-2013, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by 2010splash

Don't cry because I rip your grade school arguments to shreds clown.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...5&postcount=63

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...0&postcount=50

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...9&postcount=52

Let's see you rip your own arguments to shreds

**2010splash** · 06-04-2013, 11:22 AM

1. Jordan
2. LeBron
3. Magic
4. Wilt
5. Kareem
6. Duncan
7. Shaq
8. Bird
9. Kobe
10. Hakeem

That's what it looks like after this year.

**nightprowler10** · 06-04-2013, 11:23 AM

I'm surprised to see so few mentions of the Logo when talking about a top 10 list.

**chazzy** · 06-04-2013, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by gengiskhan

This!

10th Position of GOAT is LOCKED!

4 x MVPs
2 x FMVPs
1 x ROTY

all means this....

1. jordan
2. Wilt
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Bird
6 Russell
7. Hakeem
8. Shaq
9. Big O
10.LBJ

3-peat will put him over Big O shaq & Hakeem.

very close to bird & russell.

Lebron and Kobe are already ahead of Oscar all time. Weak team success and 1 title as the 2nd option

**tpols** · 06-04-2013, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by 2010splash

Don't cry because I rip your grade school arguments to shreds clown.

lol youve never had an argument to begin with.

Wilt won MVPs in a golden age for Centers.. Bill Russel, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Nate Thurmond, Willis Reed... He was competing with absurd talent.

Who was Lebron's competition for MVPs?

Exiting prime Kobe
Kevin Durant
Dwayne Wade
Dwight Howard lol
Derrick Rose

??? Anyone else. Its a joke.

Lebron started snatching MVPs as all of the legends KG, Duncan, Dirk, Kobe, Shaq, were exiting their primes or the league itself.

And now hes in one of the LEAST competitive eras of all time in the time gap between the old legends retiring and the new ones developing meanwhile having a STACKED team formed through collusion to battle it out with the lesser competition. Total fraud lol

Bucks
Third string bulls
Pacers
Old Spurs

He SHOULD be going for a threepeat because that loss to the mavs was a disgrace.. and that title run was yet another cakewalk.

Despite all of that, he doesnt even touch Wilt's individual dominance nor come close to breaking all the records Wilt broke.

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