How will you remember James Harden's legacy in his 9 seasons at Houston Rockets?

[LoneyROY7]

Tmac of his generation minus the injuries. Great regular season, average post season.

T-Mac couldn't even make it out of the 1st round.

[Axe]

T-Mac couldn't even make it out of the 1st round.

That is despite being a hof'er too

[Wally450]

Always coming up short unfortunately.

[kawhileonard2]

That he is considered King James.

[guy]

With regard to your first point, you are mistaken.

No I'm not. We don't need to go into specifics. He doesn't have that reputation for no reason.

With regard to your second point, he lacked a great second option who could stay healthy on a consistent basis. Also, the Warriors simply had more talent than the Rockets during those years.

The Warriors outside of the KD years were nothing special talent wise. They just appear so because of how successful they were which is a function of their playing style and chemistry which doesn't revolve heavily around ISO ball vs ball movement. The Warriors are not as good, and more importantly Klay and Draymond are not as good, if you replaced Steph with Harden based on the way they play. Now if Harden could actually change how he plays to be more like Steph, maybe I'm wrong, but there is nothing that indicates he could.

So with that said, he gets a pass for 1 season, 2018. He wasn't "overmatched" in 2014 vs the Blazers, 2015 vs the Warriors, 2016 vs the Warriors, 2017 vs the Spurs (missing Kawhi at the end of the series), 2019 vs the Warriors (missing KD at the end of the series).

And sure we can disagree about that if you want, but either way, doesn't change anything I said. No one has won a championship playing the way he plays.

With regard to your third point, you have no idea if he was "consistently late to practices..." Those hit pieces/complaints (for the most part) came out a few months ago after he had expressed interest inn leaving Houston. IMO many reporters wanted to smear his name in order to create drama.

So the collective media colluded together to do this? There wasn't a strong denial after that. Sure, we don't know but we can only go by what's been widespread reported. Otherwise, how else can we judge certain things?

Its pretty obvious he consistently has not gotten along with other star teammates, so it wouldn't be surprising if those things were true. Now sure, guys like Dwight, CP3, and Westbrook have their own history of that as well, but doesn't change Harden's history.

[Mr. Woke]

No I'm not. We don't need to go into specifics. He doesn't have that reputation for no reason.



The Warriors outside of the KD years were nothing special talent wise. They just appear so because of how successful they were which is a function of their playing style and chemistry which doesn't revolve heavily around ISO ball vs ball movement. The Warriors are not as good, and more importantly Klay and Draymond are not as good, if you replaced Steph with Harden based on the way they play. Now if Harden could actually change how he plays to be more like Steph, maybe I'm wrong, but there is nothing that indicates he could.

So with that said, he gets a pass for 1 season, 2018. He wasn't "overmatched" in 2014 vs the Blazers, 2015 vs the Warriors, 2016 vs the Warriors, 2017 vs the Spurs (missing Kawhi at the end of the series), 2019 vs the Warriors (missing KD at the end of the series).

And sure we can disagree about that if you want, but either way, doesn't change anything I said. No one has won a championship playing the way he plays.



So the collective media colluded together to do this? There wasn't a strong denial after that. Sure, we don't know but we can only go by what's been widespread reported. Otherwise, how else can we judge certain things?

Its pretty obvious he consistently has not gotten along with other star teammates, so it wouldn't be surprising if those things were true. Now sure, guys like Dwight, CP3, and Westbrook have their own history of that as well, but doesn't change Harden's history.

There are two sides to every story.

[pandiani17]

[QUOTE=guy;14228448]No I'm not. We don't need to go into specifics. He doesn't have that reputation for no reason.



The Warriors outside of the KD years were nothing special talent wise. They just appear so because of how successful they were which is a function of their playing style and chemistry which doesn't revolve heavily around ISO ball vs ball movement. The Warriors are not as good, and more importantly Klay and Draymond are not as good, if you replaced Steph with Harden based on the way they play. Now if Harden could actually change how he plays to be more like Steph, maybe I'm wrong, but there is nothing that indicates he could.

How did they have All-Star Iguodala coming off the bench, then? Curry, Klay, Dray, Bogut, David Lee, Harrison Barnes... They were loaded.

[imdaman99]

Played on the only team to put a dent in the Warriors stacked armor

[Real14]

dribble, dribble, dribble, flop, foul lines and.... Yes! Lamez Retarden