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Old 04-24-2013, 03:02 AM   #1
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Default would Shaq have a ring if his 2nd best player was a pau gasol level player

i.e. zero defense, soft, bench warmer allstar reserve, playing out of position, no clutch, only good for 3-4 years in his career, 0-13 on his own in the playoffs

so basically a guy like .... ummm.. i dunno...

shareef abdur rahim or Wally Szczerbiak in his prime




instead of Kobe Bryant/Dwyane Wade averaging 30ppg with all nba on both ends, mega clutch shots etc...
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:03 AM   #2
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What the **** is this shit? Is this really a thread?
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:04 AM   #3
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Default Re: would Shaq have a ring if his 2nd best player was a pau gasol level player

this is the dumbest shit I've ever read
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:04 AM   #4
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yea replace kobe with ray allen (pau gasol level player) and they probably win 5 rings
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:06 AM   #5
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:08 AM   #6
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Default Re: would Shaq have a ring if his 2nd best player was a pau gasol level player

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this is the dumbest shit I've ever read


simple question... could shaq have gotten it done with a type of running mate kobe had that won him back 2 back titles


shaq couldn't get it done with penny... who was beastly himself. but not quite on kobe/wades level



its not a difficult question ... could shaq have gotten it done with a much muuuuch lesser guy
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:10 AM   #7
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simple question... could shaq have gotten it done with a type of running mate kobe had that won him back 2 back titles


shaq couldn't get it done with penny... who was beastly himself. but not quite on kobe/wades level



its not a difficult question ... could shaq have gotten it done with a much muuuuch lesser guy


answer is yes, nobody to hog most of the shots
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:10 AM   #8
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Just stop. It's only going to get worse...
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:11 AM   #9
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yea replace kobe with ray allen (pau gasol level player) and they probably win 5 rings


did you just put prime ray allen on gasoft's level?

ray averaged 26/5/4 one year

had a bunch of years around 23/4/4

greatest shooter ever

10 time allstar


paus entire career was around 18-19ppg, hes a 4 time allstar

not even in the same ballpark bro




and even then i think shaq would have had trouble.. since kobe was the main play maker/ball handler for LA... and ray allen is a catch and shoot guy


besides.... penny hardaway was better than ray allen

and he didnt get it done with penny... so he obviously needed the alpha of all alpha type player to win him those rings
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He five-starred his own thread. Jesus Christ.
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:17 AM   #11
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Default Re: would Shaq have a ring if his 2nd best player was a pau gasol level player

Put Shaq with Pau and they won more.
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:21 AM   #12
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He five-starred his own thread. Jesus Christ.

says the guy whos a fan of a team who's most famous player ever is damon wayans and their only nba championship is a fake one against boston in a made up movie
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:24 AM   #13
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Default Re: would Shaq have a ring if his 2nd best player was a pau gasol level player

Wally barely made an all-star team 1 year. Pau was an all-star multiple times and was year after year a top 5 PF.

The Ray Allen comparison really is kind of fair. Ray, like Pau, was never the best at his position, but was frequently top 5. Ray, like Pau, only has 1 2nd team All-NBA selection, and only has 1 3rd team All-NBA selection (compared to 2 for Pau). Sure Allen has more all-star game selections, but if Shaq had Allen for 5 years, he could have a few rings.
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:25 AM   #14
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Default Re: would Shaq have a ring if his 2nd best player was a pau gasol level player

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simple question... could shaq have gotten it done with a type of running mate kobe had that won him back 2 back titles


shaq couldn't get it done with penny... who was beastly himself. but not quite on kobe/wades level



its not a difficult question ... could shaq have gotten it done with a much muuuuch lesser guy

Pau was as versatile a big can be. Could play both the 4 and 5 effectively. Best interior passing big man. Can facilitate as well as anyone in the high post. Very skilled low post player, perfect for the triangle. High IQ, proven from how quick he assimilated into the triple post system. Yeah he's a bit soft and bigger stronger players often kept him off that block but Pau was a damn good player for Kobe.

BUT, it wasn't just Pau. Pau, Bynum and Odom made up the best front court rotation in the game. Regardless of Bynum's production, Bynum was proving himself to be a formidable big man before he got injured in 08. 09 and 10 was no different. He had some outstanding superstar type games here and there, and thing was....he was basically the backup. LAst season wasn't some break out year for Bynum either. I bet he could have put up those same number back in 09 and 10 if he was given the minutes and same role. Even so, Gasol was the more impact player. Passing is a big aspect of the triple post. Bynum has tunnel vision when gets the ball down low. Not the brightest of players either.

So Shaq with a top 5 guard, combo guard I suppose, and overall the best guard rotation in the game? I'd say Shaq would be just fine. And don't revert to the Nick and Eddie days because Phil wasn't coach then. The triangle plays a big part in this.

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Old 04-24-2013, 03:30 AM   #15
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Put Shaq with Pau and they won more.
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