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Old 05-03-2007, 01:37 PM   #1
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Does Odom draw defenders to open the floor for Kobe? No. Does Odom block shots against penetration to anchor the defense? No. Those are the two skills the Lakers need most on each end respectively. Odom can't provide that.

Odom is the second highest paid player on the team. The #2 paid guy on the roster needs to deliver the skills the team must have on both ends to succeed. Odom does not do that. Odom delivers personal stats he doesn't optimize Kobe's game.

When #1 and #2 have to depend on 3-5 to work you've already failed. 1 and 2 have to optimize each other as 3-5 makes it even tougher to defend 1 and 2. Instead you want better 3-5 to make 1 and 2 good enough. That's an expensive approach, and a flawed one. 1 and 2 have to complement one another and you go from there. When 1 and 2 have to depend on others to succeed together you've already lost

It comes from the most knowledgable fan on the internet IMO.
He's recognized as the best and most knowledgable poster on the Lakers web.

Anyway, what do you think about that assessment?
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:41 PM   #2
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It comes from the most knowledgable fan on the internet IMO.
He's recognized as the best and most knowledgable poster on the Lakers web.

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Old 05-03-2007, 01:45 PM   #3
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:46 PM   #4
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It comes from the most knowledgable fan on the internet IMO.
He's recognized as the best and most knowledgable poster on the Lakers web.

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link? otherwise its sounds remarkedly like one of your own personal anti Odom rants...
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:47 PM   #5
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It's from club lakers.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:49 PM   #6
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:49 PM   #7
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Yes, I do agree with it. (In fact I've been saying the same thing for over 2 years now. And counting.)

This is also one of your better threads, props. Great find.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:49 PM   #8
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I agree with this assessment. I have always contended that LO belongs as the "#3" option within the system and that the Lakers need a true #2. He brings many things to the team that are extremely valuable.

I know many of you have complained about LO's salary, and it is high for the return that they get. However, people fail to mention that the Lakers did not negotiate LO's salary. He was part of a package for Shaq to make the numbers work and for the Lakers to get as much talent for Shaq as they could since Shaq demanded a trade. Shaq demanding a trade limited any true leverage the Lakers may have had in getting the best players possible in return.

Unfortunately, Lakers management did some dumb things after the fact (i.e. trading Caron Butler).


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Old 05-03-2007, 01:51 PM   #9
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Yes, I do agree with it. (In fact I've been saying the same thing for over 2 years now. And counting.)

This is also one of your better threads, props. Great find.

WTH? Those aren't even my words, how can that be one of my better threads?
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:51 PM   #10
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link? otherwise its sounds remarkedly like one of your own personal anti Odom rants...

It makes a lot of sense. the way the argument is constructed is telling us that it comes from an older guy, not a 20-year-old. Not that I have anything against youth, but this kind of knowledge usually comes later.

The poster doesn't say Odom su(ks, is a tweener, lacks heart or anything like that. He just says he is not a good player for the team, and has the reasons why.

There is one area Odom would be missed if he got traded. Rebounding.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:52 PM   #11
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WTH? Those aren't even my words, how can that be one of my better threads?

LMAO... get the hint????



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Old 05-03-2007, 01:54 PM   #12
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WTH? Those aren't even my words, how can that be one of my better threads?

This thread actually makes sense. : I don't care whose words these are. I don't know him and I don't know you. Both of you are characters on my screen.

I just wanted to express my thoughts, according to which you make better threads these days.

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Old 05-03-2007, 01:55 PM   #13
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LMAO... get the hint????



that flew right over my head... lol perfect....
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:57 PM   #14
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that flew right over my head... lol perfect....

That's how friggin' funny I am. :
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