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Old 10-29-2012, 12:31 AM   #31
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Default Re: Only 33% of Americans think Obama is a Christian, per AP poll

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No, I don't. I just don't feel like he's christian. I guess I really have nothing to base it on besides his speeches and policy actions. I feel like he's putting up a front because he has to be somewhat christian to be elected.
I feel like a lot of supposed religious people are putting up a front. I'd say about 10-percent of the 'Christian' people I meet on a daily basis are actual practicing Christians... Following the Bible, going to Mass regularly, doing confessionals, living up to the commandments, etc.

So, in that sense, I would probably agree that he isn't a Christian in the very orthodox way of looking at it. But, I do believe he's among those who is a part of the Christian culture, which is on the other side of being orthodox. And generally, those people who partake in Christian customs and the culture are still considered and do consider themselves Christian, even though it wouldn't pass muster in the very strictest sense.

This is coming from someone who absolutely wishes he was a secret agnostic/atheist. I have no reason to believe that is the case.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:44 AM   #32
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Absent evidence saying he isn't and with clear evidence pointing to him having a strong Christian faith isn't it illogical to have the staunch opinion that he isn't a Christian? Being illogical is something I can't understand so it's a pet peeve of mind. I'll just agree to disagree. As far as him sucking ass, well at least I can understand that opinion based on political leaning.

Either way, just know that I don't base my vote on the fact that I believe he isn't christian. In this country, it's almost mandatory to be christian. I think he's putting up a front...just my opinion.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:48 AM   #33
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In this country, it's almost mandatory to be christian.
Apparently not, since the candidate for unarguably the more religiously fixated party is a Mormon. I'm hoping there will come a day when people will really look at the separation of church and state seriously. It shouldn't even be a part of the discussion in the first place.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:54 AM   #34
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For anyone interested, CNN did a feature about Obama's faith about a week ago. Pretty good reading.

The Gospel According to Obama
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:54 AM   #35
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I hope he's a Muslim. I want a Muslim president. Now I'm definitely voting for him. Thanks for this. You just gave him another vote.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:15 AM   #36
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Apparently not, since the candidate for unarguably the more religiously fixated party is a Mormon. I'm hoping there will come a day when people will really look at the separation of church and state seriously. It shouldn't even be a part of the discussion in the first place.

It shouldn't, but it is. I am getting so fed up of this racist, anti-science, anti-intellectualism, anti-woman, bullshit hate mongering that is so prevalent in this country. An Obama mannequin was recently strung up from a tree at a church in Charlotte, NC. A CHURCH. In 2012. Politicians who have science textbooks replaced with Christian creationist books in public ****ing schools. Does the first amendment even mean anything anymore? Churches are blatantly endorsing candidates and yet still remain open with tax exempt status.

Religion is the poison that is killing this country and the world.
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Old 10-29-2012, 05:37 AM   #37
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Default Re: Only 33% of Americans think Obama is a Christian, per AP poll

When people say there is no race baiting, they are full of shit because this is a parallel tactic to that.

He's gone to church for the past 20 years, but people still doubt his faith, so why do they?

Because they perpetually get hit with these messages both subliminal and direct that Obama isn't typical, not a real American and so they start all this shit to make people like Hawkboy above question something they already know the answer to.

Its the same assholes who b*tch about Reverend Wright's undue influence on Obama say he isn't Christian out the other side of their mouth.

Its a dirty and disgusting tactic.

Just like Trump with the insinuations that first he isn't American, and now he didn't earn his way to college, and then for good measure suggests a few stereotypical black charities.

It is blatant racism. They aren't coming up and saying he is a n*gger, but they are going out of their way to find new ways to show you he is one of 'them'.

Gross.
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Old 10-29-2012, 06:55 AM   #38
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i think obama is an atheist cuz he ain't a dumb f--k.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:02 AM   #39
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OP is aware that Romney is a Mormon whose grandfather moved to Mexico in order to have multiple wives right?
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:08 AM   #40
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And only 1% of America actually cares.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:58 AM   #41
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When people say there is no race baiting, they are full of shit because this is a parallel tactic to that.

He's gone to church for the past 20 years, but people still doubt his faith, so why do they?

Because they perpetually get hit with these messages both subliminal and direct that Obama isn't typical, not a real American and so they start all this shit to make people like Hawkboy above question something they already know the answer to.

Its the same assholes who b*tch about Reverend Wright's undue influence on Obama say he isn't Christian out the other side of their mouth.

Its a dirty and disgusting tactic.

Just like Trump with the insinuations that first he isn't American, and now he didn't earn his way to college, and then for good measure suggests a few stereotypical black charities.

It is blatant racism. They aren't coming up and saying he is a n*gger, but they are going out of their way to find new ways to show you he is one of 'them'.

Gross.

Chris Matthews? Is that you?
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:58 AM   #42
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OP is aware that Romney is a Mormon whose grandfather moved to Mexico in order to have multiple wives right?

Non partisan link...or GTFO.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:07 AM   #43
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Non partisan link...or GTFO.

It was his great grand father who fled so he could bang multiple women and claim them as his wives.

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Old 10-29-2012, 10:08 AM   #44
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It was his great grand father who fled so he could bang multiple women and claim them as his wives.

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My bad.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:10 AM   #45
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Sounds like this cat Longhornfan is more representative of the average US citizen than I thought.
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