Some interesting quotes about the No hand checking rule and Michael Jordan

[whoartthou]

Kobe did take some stupid shots but their rotations were perfect anytime he took a dribble towards the basket. They'd always collapse on him with 1 or 2 extra guys if he got anywhere near the paint and if he had just passed more and didn't try to take so many hero shots his team could have won a little easier.

i agree wholeheartedly. The Celtics rotations were crisp and top notch. I think if the lakers collectively passed the ball down to the post more often (Gasol or bynum) and have odom impose the matchup issues that he gives, i honestly believe that this would have opened the door for kobe to operate more freely and thus having a MUCH more efficient game.

[Quizno]

he can't because he'll be operating out of the teams offense. The great ones did it within the team's offense..

oh, so when players and ex-players say MJ could do it, it's legit, but when they say kobe could, it doesn't count. gotcha.

agenda detected.

[whoartthou]

Derek Fisher also said Kobe could score 50 every night if he wanted to. Doesn't mean shit now does it?

If they called it by the book.. Kobe should averge 15+ft's easily. But that would ruin the game so they allow handchecking etc. Why do you think Ray Allen didn't get into foul trouble after game 1? He still played that same grabbing defense..

Ray allen did handcheck kobe sometimes, but i am sure kobe does not mind it (didn't kobe once mention that he wishes the nba would go back to its physical style of play?).

[ashbelly]

oh, so when players and ex-players say MJ could do it, it's legit, but when they say kobe could, it doesn't count. gotcha.

agenda detected.

The proof is in the pudding, MJ did it and won six 6 rings in the process. When Kobe did it, they couldn't win some playoffs games.. What more evidence do you need to know that he can't do it ???

[jstern]

Jordan once said that he could average 40 points per game, back in the 90s, but that it would have killed the team's offense.

Either way, a million years from now will come, and all this won't matter.

[LA KB24]

you guys should rewatch the 2010 nba finals. The boston celtics mostly single covered kobe bryant with either ray allen on him or tony allen. They did not DOUBLE him on every possession. IN fact, when they did double him, he took stupid forced shots instead of dishing it out to an open teammate. I am not saying that the 2008 and 2010 celtics were not great defensive teams, but kobe's shot selection sure does overrate the celtics a little bit..

So you're telling us to rewatch the Finals and then you say this sh1t? lol.

Whenever he stepped in the paint, there was almost always a tripple team. The C's were an excellent help and recover defensive team.

[Quizno]

The proof is in the pudding, MJ did it and won six 6 rings in the process. When Kobe did it, they couldn't win some playoffs games.. What more evidence do you need to know that he can't do it ???

uhh, not really. when MJ was winning championships with the bulls he was averaging about 30 ppg. when kobe won championships (not counting the 99-00 season when kobe wasn't a superstar), he was averaging about 27 ppg. are you really saying THREE ppg is a huge difference?

[lefthook00]

Players still hand check today dummies. It just gets called more b/c it's "illegal" now. So is 3 seconds. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen ALL THE TIME.

[7_cody]

uhh, not really. when MJ was winning championships with the bulls he was averaging about 30 ppg. when kobe won championships (not counting the 99-00 season when kobe wasn't a superstar), he was averaging about 27 ppg. are you really saying THREE ppg is a huge difference?

Didn't you know that if you want to know who had a better game, all you gotta do is look at their stat line?

3 ppg is HUGE difference. I mean MJ and Kobe played the exact same roles, had the EXACT same teammates, played the EXACT same team that MJ did, faced the EXACT same defenders, FELT the exact same good and healthy MJ did on those EXACT same days, etc etc...

[tpols]

Players still hand check today dummies. It just gets called more b/c it's "illegal" now. So is 3 seconds. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen ALL THE TIME.

It's amazing how so many people don't aknowledge this...

They either do it to exxagerate prior eras or they really just don't have a clue...

[7_cody]

Players still hand check today dummies. It just gets called more b/c it's "illegal" now. So is 3 seconds. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen ALL THE TIME.

Yep, but according to some posters, we don't play in a rough league anymore. LOL. I agree that it's not as phyiscal, but there's plenty of contact going around.

As for hand checking... lol, WHY IS KOBE NOT SHOOTING 30 FTS A GAME? ITS ILLEGAL RIGHT?

[LA KB24]

Didn't you know that if you want to know who had a better game, all you gotta do is look at their stat line?

3 ppg is HUGE difference. I mean MJ and Kobe played the exact same roles, had the EXACT same teammates, played the EXACT same team that MJ did, faced the EXACT same defenders, FELT the exact same good and healthy MJ did on those EXACT same days, etc etc...

Hahaha I like this new guy.

[NuggetsFan]

It's just common sense. It's easier to guard someone with your hands. Think about if your playing on the courts and you couldn't use your hands? You'd probably get blown by alot more.

Either way I'm sure great players would adjust depending on what era they played in. Kinda sucks now how there's so many bail out calls tho.

[TheLogo]

This thread is failure.

Let's just say MJ can score with "no handchecking" but you have to factor in that Zone defense is allowed.

MJ wouldn't be able to score, not because of the hand checking, but the zone.

[LA KB24]

This thread is failure.

Let's just say MJ can score with "no handchecking" but you have to factor in that Zone defense is allowed.

MJ wouldn't be able to score, not because of the hand checking, but the zone.

Why aren't you banned yet?