Pretend the NBA started in 2000, who are the top 10 players of all-time now?

[ripthekik]

Just for fun.

My list:

1.Shaq
2.Kobe
3. Duncan
4. Garnett
5. Lebron
6. Dirk
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Steve Nash
9. Dwight Howard
10. Jason Kidd

1/2 Shaq and Kobe were definitely very very close for me. Another day and I would probably come up with a different result.

4/5 Lebron and Garnett are also extremely close, they both have 1 ring. But I gave it to KG because he was playing at an all-star level every single year since 2000, while lebron 2005. Garnett also has 9

[AK47DR91]

1. Shaq
2. Kobe
3. Duncan
4. LeBron
5. Garnett
6. Dirk
7. Nash
8. Howard
9. Wade
10. Ben Wallace

HM: Pierce, Kidd, McGrady, Allen.

[Myth]

1. Shaq
2. Kobe
3. Duncan
4. LeBron
5. Garnett
6. Dirk
7. Nash
8. Howard
9. Wade
10. Ben Wallace

HM: Pierce, Kidd, McGrady, Allen.

Big Ben over Kidd? Ben was a better defender, but Kidd was still a great defender. Meanwhile, on offense Ben couldn't do shit while Kidd was a stud.

OPs list looks pretty accurate.

**Waits for "Pretend NBA started in 2010" thread**

[WockaVodka]

1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Kobe
4. Lebron
5. Garnett
6. Nowitzki
7. Nash
8. Wade
9. Kidd
10. Pierce

[Deuce Bigalow]

Shaq's '92-'99 years go away. Duncan's '99 run goes away. So Kobe would be #1.

[DaSeba5]

I can't argue with your list, OP. It's accurate.

[ripthekik]

Shaq's '92-'99 years go away. Duncan's '99 run goes away. So Kobe would be #1.

Shaq would still have the most dominant 3 peat run in history though.
Duncan is still a 3x champion even without '99.

[Myth]

1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Kobe
4. Lebron
5. Garnett
6. Nowitzki
7. Nash
8. Wade
9. Kidd
10. Pierce

Ooh, I wasn't thinking about the case of Duncan over Shaq, but there is certainly a case after removing 7-8 years of Shaq's career, although that also removes a chip from Duncan's collection.

[Heavincent]

1. Kobe
2. Shaq
3. Duncan
4. Lebron
5. KG
6. Dirk
7. Kidd
8. Nash
9. Iverson
10. Allen

[b1imtf]

1. Scal
Rest doesn't matter

[DaSeba5]

1. Scal
Rest doesn't matter

[AK47DR91]

Shaq would still have the most dominant 3 peat run in history though.
Duncan is still a 3x champion even without '99.

And back-to-back MVPs for Duncan.

The Shaq vs Kobe vs Duncan debate is actually very close if you only go by 2000-10.

A couple of MVP caliber seasons for Kobe then I can seriously say all three guys are nearly identical for overall. Shaq's '92-'99 and Duncan's two seasons in the late 90's still have them slightly over Kobe at the moment.

[DaSeba5]

And back-to-back MVPs for Duncan.

The Shaq vs Kobe vs Duncan debate is actually very close if you only go by 2000-10.

A couple of MVP caliber seasons for Kobe then I can seriously say all three guys are nearly identical for overall. Shaq's '92-'99 and Duncan's two seasons in the late 90's still have them slightly over Kobe at the moment.

That's how I see it.

[Myth]

The Shaq vs Kobe vs Duncan debate is actually very close if you only go by 2000-10.

I'm thinking we are looking at 2000-12.

[ripthekik]

And back-to-back MVPs for Duncan.

The Shaq vs Kobe vs Duncan debate is actually very close if you only go by 2000-10.

A couple of MVP caliber seasons for Kobe then I can seriously say all three guys are nearly identical for overall. Shaq's '92-'99 and Duncan's two seasons in the late 90's still have them slightly over Kobe at the moment.

Definitely.

Kobe's resume will look very impressive having won 5 rings out of 12 seasons.
Shaq has his impressive 3 peat run.
Duncan 3x champion every other year.