Kobe without Gasol/Shaq vs. Jordan without Pippen

[GrapeApe]

Even that I'm not too sure about

1st option as in he chucked the most shots? sure, but that chucking cost them games, like Jordans infamous 5/19 (not quite a 6/24 but close enough)


In terms of overall dominance, Pippen was clearly above Jordan however

Strange how Jordan is the one with 5 MVP's, 10 scoring titles, a DPOY, and 6 FMVP's. Weird stuff indeed.

[JT123]

It's true bruh. MJ is 1-9 without the PMSS ([COLOR="Red"]Pippen mental support system[/COLOR])

[Thesmallmamba]

It's true bruh. MJ is 1-9 without the PMSS ([COLOR="Red"]Pippen mental support system[/COLOR])

[LBJFTW]

PMSS

How original.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=387567

[Bless Mathews]

Kobe

2005 - 34-48 miss playoffs

2006- 45-37 lose 4-3 in the 1st round

2007- 42-40 lose 4-1 in the 1st round

2015 - 21-61 miss playoffs

2016- ???



Jordan


1985 - 38-44 lose 1-3 in the 1st round

1986- 30-52 lose 0-3 in the 1st round

1987- 40-42 lose 0-3 in the 1st round

2002 - 37-45 miss playoffs

2003- 37 - 45 miss playoffs


FYI notice how Jordans record is below .500 every season wthout Pippen in his career. Forget winning playoff games, he apparently couldnt win regular season games also





So who are you taking?

A rookie to third year player getting his team to playoffs in a good eastern conference vs a PEAK supposed goat ???

Ok idiot shit for brains.

And to even put mj wizard stats proves how much of a complete clown fucc you are.

[Mr. Jabbar]

I had GREAT faith in OP. GREAT FAITH. I'm very disappointed how he got body bagged 1st reply. NOT A GOOD LOOK.

[sekachu]

[QUOTE=Thesmallmamba]Kobe

2005 - 34-48 miss playoffs

2006- 45-37 lose 4-3 in the 1st round

2007- 42-40 lose 4-1 in the 1st round

2015 - 21-61 miss playoffs

2016- ???



Jordan


1985 - 38-44 lose 1-3 in the 1st round

1986- 30-52 lose 0-3 in the 1st round

1987- 40-42 lose 0-3 in the 1st round

2002 - 37-45 miss playoffs

2003- 37 - 45 miss playoffs


FYI notice how Jordans record is below .500 every season wthout Pippen in his career. Forget winning playoff games, he apparently couldnt win regular season games also


So you expect MJ is Goat in his first 3 years in nba?
You ignored the fact that MJ broken his foot missing 64 games in his second year and played against the champion boston in the first round?
Do you know Boston was a team that make 4 consecutive final from 1984-1987?
Do you even know how bad was wizard before 39 MJ joined them?
Thank you

[riseagainst]

The guy that doesn't know how to lose once he's in the finals.

The GOAT, Jordan.

Kobe, while the GOAT of his own era, unfortunately didn't have that "I don't know how to lose in the finals" mentality, so Kobe is the runner up.

Both are worlds ahead of Bron however when it comes to knowing how to win in the finals.

/ether
/thread

[ArbitraryWater]

It's true bruh. MJ is 1-9 without the PMSS ([COLOR="Red"]Pippen mental support system[/COLOR])

[kennethgriffin]

why do people ask "what did kobe do without gasol"


the only guys who won with lower ranked all time 2nd options were

hakeem olajuwon
rick barry
bill walton
dennis johnson
bob pettit
dirk nowitzki



gasol is a barely adequate sidekick in order to compete for a title

[ShawkFactory]

why do people ask "what did kobe do without gasol"


the only guys who won with lower ranked all time 2nd options were

hakeem olajuwon
rick barry
bill walton
dennis johnson
bob pettit
dirk nowitzki



gasol is a barely adequate sidekick in order to compete for a title

Gasol was far better than anyone besides Duncan on the 03 Spurs.

[feyki]

It's a tie. Kobe and Jordan are both AWFUL without their HOF sidekicks.

And avatar is Shaq

[West-Side]

Kobe

2005 - 34-48 miss playoffs Yeah because he got injured and missed like 16 games. Odom got hurt too that year, their record wasn't half bad when everyone were healthy.

2006- 45-37 lose 4-3 in the 1st round

2007- 42-40 lose 4-1 in the 1st round

2015 - 21-61 miss playoffs Really? The man came back from an injury that Jordan never came close to suffering and played in like 35 games.

2016- ???



Jordan


1985 - 38-44 lose 1-3 in the 1st round

1986- 30-52 lose 0-3 in the 1st round

1987- 40-42 lose 0-3 in the 1st round

2002 - 37-45 miss playoffs

2003- 37-45 miss playoffs


FYI notice how Jordans record is below .500 every season without Pippen in his career. Forget winning playoff games, he apparently couldnt win regular season games also





So who are you taking?

Just a perfect example of how every superstar in this league needs help, even the 2 greatest SGs of all-time.

[Doranku]

why do people ask "what did kobe do without gasol"


the only guys who won with lower ranked all time 2nd options were

hakeem olajuwon
rick barry
bill walton
dennis johnson
bob pettit
dirk nowitzki



gasol is a barely adequate sidekick in order to compete for a title

It's honestly hilarious how people use the "well Kobe did nothing without Shaq/Gasol" card.

Pretty sure if you took the two best teammates away from any all-time great, they wouldn't have done shit either.

[kennethgriffin]

Gasol was far better than anyone besides Duncan on the 03 Spurs.

parker averaged 16 and 5

which is basically his career average


just because he wasnt an established hall of famer YET doesnt take away the talent he possessed at a young age


gasol was slightly better at the time. but allot of what gasol did was based off kobes ability to draw double teams in their pick and rolls together


allot of parkers game is initiated by parker. not the attention defenses give to duncan



parker is self reliant. gasol isnt.