Why people think players are more athletic today

[BMOGEFan]

You are so goddamn dumb holy f*ck it just doesnt stop. You really think mcgee won't make an nba team in the 80s? And no I don't have "pubs" you f*gg*t

ohhh relying on grammar/spelling error attacks now....fail

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are you saying you don't need to be athletic to be fundamentally sound?

God i swear you are an idiot.

Thats exactly what I am saying you idiot. I know 10 year olds who play in leagues where they get taught skills from an early age. Fundamentals have nothing to do with athleticism. You think tim duncan today is athletic?

[BMOGEFan]

Thats exactly what I am saying you idiot. I know 10 year olds who play in leagues where they get taught skills from an early age. Fundamentals have nothing to do with athleticism. You think tim duncan today is athletic?

[ralph_i_el]

are you saying you don't need to be athletic to be fundamentally sound?

God i swear you are an idiot.

plenty of unathletic players are fundamentally sound

Zbo, Nash, dirk, andre miller, jared dudley, kevin Love just off the top of my head. Obviously they're athletic compared to the average person but by nba standards they aren't. Plenty of nice players are not athletic but are fundemental

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LMAO ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW?

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fundamentals have NOTHING to do with athleticism

[BMOGEFan]

fundamentals have NOTHING to do with athleticism

say that again with a straight face..

you think you can just pull off exceptional footwork without body control?

where do you think body control comes from? your mind?

[tmacattack33]

One thing that I think is making a difference in the perception of what's happening is that today's players are more muscular and toned, with ridiculous 6% body fat or whatever, and just look more athletic than the older players.

That can be quantified and backed up by statistics too, as they have an average height and weight stat for the NBA for every year and it has indeed increased.

And i think it has increased because lifting weights has become the norm for basketball players.

Back in the day, I believe some people still thought that lifting could throw off your jump shot and mess with your coordination. Those ideas slowly went away in the 80's or so.

[ralph_i_el]

One thing that I think is making a difference in the perception of what's happening is that today's players are more muscular and just look more athletic than the older players.

That can be quantified and backed up by statistics too, as they have an average height and weight stat for the NBA for every year and it has indeed increased.

And i think it has increased because lifting weights has become the norm for basketball players.

Back in the day, I believe some people still thought that lifting could throw off your jump shot and mess with your coordination. Those ideas slowly went away in the 80's or so.

average height has decreased since the 80's. average weight is slightly


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_lea...ing_experience

[tmacattack33]

average height has decreased since the 80's. average weight is slightly higher

Oh okay, yeah.

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say that again with a straight face..

you think you can just pull off exceptional footwork without body control?

where do you think body control comes from? your mind?

fundamentals have NOTHING to do with athleticism

You are a joke if you think one needs great athleticism to be fundamentally sound. Even the most basic athlete can have complete mastery over fundamentals. Your argument was that players in the past were more athletic because they were more fundamentally sound. That is one of the single dumbest things I have read on this board.

[BMOGEFan]

You are a joke if you think one needs great athleticism to be fundamentally sound. Even the most basic athlete can have complete mastery over fundamentals. Your argument was that players in the past were more athletic because they were more fundamentally sound. That is one of the single dumbest things I have read on this board.

Have the most athletic guy in the league...pull off a dream shake. See if he can control his body to pull off that move. I'm betting he can't.

You do know that jumping isn't the only indication of athleticism.

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Have the most athletic guy in the league...pull off a dream shake. See if he can control his body to pull off that move. I'm betting he can't.

You do know that jumping isn't the only indication of athleticism.

my god just shut the f*ck up already

[BMOGEFan]

You are a joke if you think one needs great athleticism to be fundamentally sound. Even the most basic athlete can have complete mastery over fundamentals. Your argument was that players in the past were more athletic because they were more fundamentally sound. That is one of the single dumbest things I have read on this board.

What is your ideals of fundamentals?

Boxing out? keeping your hands up? timing?

You do know fundamentals extend all the way to footwork, adjustment of body in the air, and other body control factors.

its pretty obvious you don't know that. I dont' think you ever played a sport in your life.

[rhowen4]

LMAO ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW?