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Old 09-17-2019, 03:57 PM   #1
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Mr. Trump was silent for most of the weekend after the attack, and his response on Sunday evening was a remarkable tweet that the United States was “locked and loaded,” but that he was waiting to hear from Saudi Arabia on how to proceed. In the meantime, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was pointing the finger of blame directly at Iran for “an unprecedented attack on the world’s energy supply,” while Tehran was denying his “incomprehensible and meaningless” accusations.

Well well well, waiting on Saudi Arabia to tell us what to do. We work for Saudi Arabia now, the same assh0les responsible for a huge piece of 9/11.. Draining the swamp
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Old 09-17-2019, 04:15 PM   #2
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US Attorney General Barr invokes “state secrets” to cover up Saudi involvement in 9/11

Last week, it was revealed that the Trump administration has taken extraordinary steps to continue the 18-year cover-up of Saudi government involvement in the September 11, 2001 terror attacks.

On Thursday, September 12, one day after the 18th anniversary of the attacks on New York and Washington that killed nearly 3,000 people, a federal court filing revealed that Attorney General William Barr has asserted the "state secrets" privilege to block the release of an FBI report detailing extensive relations between some of the 19 hijackers and Saudi government officials. Victims of the attacks and their families are pushing for access to the 2007 report as part of a lawsuit against the Saudi government launched in 2003 charging the despotic monarchy with coordinating the mass killings.

Barr declared there was a “reasonable danger” that releasing the report would “risk significant harm to national security.”

The court filing also revealed that the FBI has agreed to turn over to the families’ lawyers the name of a Saudi individual that is redacted in a four-page summary of the FBI report released in 2012. The summary lays out evidence concerning three Saudis who provided money and otherwise assisted two of the hijackers in California in finding housing, obtaining driver’s licenses and other matters.

Government investigations have established that the two people who are named in the FBI summary, Fahad al-Thumairy, a former Saudi consulate official, and Omar al-Bayoumi, suspected by the FBI of being a Saudi intelligence officer, were working in coordination with the Saudi regime. The third person, whose name is redacted, is described in the FBI summary as having assigned the other two to assist the hijackers.

Lawyers for the families last year subpoenaed the FBI for an unredacted copy of the summary based on the contention that the third person was a senior Saudi official. But as part of the court filing, citing the “exceptional nature of the case,” the FBI issued a protective seal to prevent the name of the third Saudi from becoming public. The agency also refused to provide any of the other information requested by the families.

An FBI official said the agency was shielding the name to protect classified information related to “ongoing investigations” and to protect its “sources and methods.”

In fact, the extraordinary measures taken to conceal the role of the Saudi regime in the 9/11 attacks are driven by the need of US imperialism to maintain its reactionary alliance with the Saudi sheiks and continue the false cover story on 9/11 that has served as an ideological pillar for aggression in the Middle East and the buildup of a police-state infrastructure within the US, carried out in the name of fighting a “war on terror.”

The Saudi monarchy has been a key ally of the United States in the Middle East for 70 years, and since 9/11 it has become, alongside Israel, Washington’s most important partner in the region. It has played a central role in the bloody wars for regime change in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen, which have killed more than a million people and destroyed entire societies. It is also the world’s biggest purchaser of US arms.

Its intelligence agencies have long worked in the closest collaboration with the CIA and the FBI. The exposure of Saudi complicity in 9/11 immediately implicates sections of the US intelligence establishment in facilitating, it not actively aiding, the terror attacks, and sheds light on the multiple unanswered questions about how 19 men, 15 of whom were Saudi nationals, could carry out such a complex operation.

The 9/11 attacks were eagerly seized upon by the George W. Bush administration, with the support of the Democratic Party and media allies such as the New York Times, to implement longstanding plans to wage aggressive war in the Middle East.

The cover-up of Saudi involvement has been carried out over three administrations, Democratic and Republican alike. It began within hours of the attacks themselves. Eight days after the attacks, at least 13 relatives of Osama bin Laden, accompanied by bodyguards and associates, were allowed to secretly leave the US on a chartered flight. One of the passengers, a nephew of the supposed number one on Washington’s “most wanted” list, had been linked by the FBI to a suspected terrorist organization.

The US association with bin Laden went back decades. Under the CIA’s Operation Cyclone, conducted between 1979 and 1989, the US and Saudi Arabia provided $40 billion worth of financial aid and weapons to the mujahedeen “freedom fighters” waging war against Soviet forces in Afghanistan, an operation in which then-US ally bin Laden played a key role. The proxy war in Afghanistan was pivotal in the later creation of Al Qaeda.

In July of 2016, the US government released to the public a 28-page section, suppressed for 14 years, of a joint congressional inquiry into 9/11. The 28-page chapter dealt with the role of the Saudi government and contained abundant and damning evidence of extensive Saudi support for the 9/11 hijackers in the period leading up to the attacks.

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Old 09-17-2019, 04:50 PM   #3
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Good thing Obama wasn't tight with the Saudis.


And of course we would wait for Saudi input before proceeding militarily because the attack was against the Saudis, not us. Nor was it directed at American interests or property.
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Old 09-17-2019, 04:59 PM   #4
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Before we go off and send American troops to fight on behalf of the Saudis this information has to become common knowledge.

They put together the attacks on 9/11. That is very clear. We used these attacks to justify making war with Saudi Arabia's regional rival, Iraq. Now, the Saudis are telling the US military that it is time to take out Iran. (Israel is also doing this)

Don't let them send off someone in your family to go fight over there. Resist this BS. Make sure people know the truth.

I would really really LOVE to see the Israelis and the Saudis do their own fighting. Let them take on Iran.
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Old 09-17-2019, 05:33 PM   #5
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Lock and loaded means prepared. That's all. I don't get what's the big deal.
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Old 09-17-2019, 07:56 PM   #6
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Lock and loaded means prepared. That's all. I don't get what's the big deal.

Problem is the moron is waiting for Saudi Arabia to tell him what to do as if Saudi Arabia owns us..
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:02 PM   #7
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And of course we would wait for Saudi input before proceeding militarily because the attack was against the Saudis, not us. Nor was it directed at American interests or property.

Why would we proceed militarily given that the attack was neither directed at American interests or property? Why are we looking to Saudi Arabia to tell us what to do?
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:06 PM   #8
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Lock and loaded means prepared. That's all. I don't get what's the big deal.

"Prepared for what" is the real issue. It really means prepared to carry out an attack or assault with weapons... as in "weapons loaded and prepared for firing." At whom are we getting ready to fire, and why?
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Old 09-18-2019, 04:14 AM   #9
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Well well well, waiting on Saudi Arabia to tell us what to do. We work for Saudi Arabia now, the same assh0les responsible for a huge piece of 9/11.. Draining the swamp

I admit I don't follow it closely but don't get how you guys let Saudi or anyone put it over you. Growing up you lot were the bosses of the world.
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Old 09-18-2019, 05:01 AM   #10
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I admit I don't follow it closely but don't get how you guys let Saudi or anyone put it over you. Growing up you lot were the bosses of the world.

The US isn't controlled by it's citizens. This is the unfortunate truth that we have to accept. In reality, the US is controlled by the most powerful people in the world....wherever and whoever they are.

People overlook and underestimate exactly how powerful the Saudis have become. The don't owe anybody anything. The Saudi royal family is by far the richest group of people in the world.
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Old 09-18-2019, 05:50 AM   #11
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The US isn't controlled by it's citizens. This is the unfortunate truth that we have to accept. In reality, the US is controlled by the most powerful people in the world....wherever and whoever they are.

People overlook and underestimate exactly how powerful the Saudis have become. The don't owe anybody anything. The Saudi royal family is by far the richest group of people in the world.

I dont disagree but you all could put your foot down like you did in Iraq.or was that more of powerful people deciding shiet
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Old 09-18-2019, 09:57 AM   #12
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The White House just called the Saudi Oil field attacks "their 911"

Just when you think this administration could not be more tone-deaf
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So far it looks like we're tightening sanctions on Iran. I hope that's as far as we go at this point.
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Why are we looking to Saudi Arabia to tell us what to do?


I would think consultation with them would be the prudent thing to do before galavanting off to war on our own. We would more than likely consult with any ally that has been attacked before acting unilaterally. The fact that it's the Saudis has you all in hysterics. They've been our allies for a long time, including under King God Obama.
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Old 09-18-2019, 11:23 AM   #15
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So far it looks like we're tightening sanctions on Iran. I hope that's as far as we go at this point.
Problem with that is we have pretty much tightened as much as we can. Not much left to sanction I believe.
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