Silverback Gorilla vs Kodiak Bear: The final battle

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Smaller leopards prey on gorillas, so it ain't going to have a chance against a grizzly or tiger. Plus it doesn't have the offensive weaponry other than strength and 2 big teeth, which are almost useless against the grizzlies thick hide and enormous neck.

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Leopards are known for nipping off females and younglings because Gorillas travel in gangs. They are almost always females or young gorillas and it is always an ambush from out of nowhere or when they are sleeping. Check your sources. Primates beat felines. There was a fighting monkey back in Europe in the 1800's. It used to go up against cats and dogs and it would always beat them the same way... It allowed them to strike with their jaws, and then the monkey would slip under and bite the neck, utilizing the primates elite mobility and climbing.

[NumberSix]

Gorillia is smarter, more agile, and has strength advantage, being able to lift 4,000 pounds. I'd like to see a bear do that. If a silverback fights smart and avoids getting clawed in a vital region, I think it has a decent chance, especially if it knows how to go for choke outs.

A gorilla is dumb. If it could think like a human, it could win..... but it can't think like a human. Gorillas don't do MMA choke holds or Shaolin Kung fu. It has less intelligence than a retarded human.

Also, get the hell outta here with that "able to lift 4,000 pounds". Their upper body is strong, but you're a retard if you think its legs can support lifting 4,000 pounds.

[Nick Young]

Smaller leopards prey on gorillas, so it ain't going to have a chance against a grizzly or tiger. Plus it doesn't have the offensive weaponry other than strength and 2 big teeth, which are almost useless against the grizzlies thick hide and enormous neck.

I have a feeling that leopards attack gorillas Assassin's Creed ninja style and rarely face off in 1v1 combat.


On a field, in straight 1v1 combat, charging at each other from 20 yards away, I feel like gorilla would be able to take down a leopard pretty easily.

[SugarHill]

I have a feeling that leopards attack gorillas Assassin's Creed ninja style and rarely face off in 1v1 combat.


On a field, in straight 1v1 combat, charging at each other from 20 yards away, I feel like gorilla would be able to take down a leopard pretty easily.

what is this? beast wars?

[NumberSix]

I have a feeling that leopards attack gorillas Assassin's Creed ninja style and rarely face off in 1v1 combat.


On a field, in straight 1v1 combat, charging at each other from 20 yards away, I feel like gorilla would be able to take down a leopard pretty easily.

No you don't. You just get a kick out of weird trolling lately.

[NumberSix]

I'd wager a Gorilla has a better chance to beat an elephant than a kodiak bear does

They both have the exact same chance. 0.

[Nick Young]

A gorilla is dumb. If it could think like a human, it could win..... but it can't think like a human. Gorillas don't do MMA choke holds or Shaolin Kung fu. It has less intelligence than a retarded human.

Also, get the hell outta here with that "able to lift 4,000 pounds". Their upper body is strong, but you're a retard if you think its legs can support lifting 4,000 pounds.

They have been known to knock down trees in the wild.

Bear cannot approach that kind of strength.

At least 2000Kg (perhaps as much as 4000Kg) if you could train it.

I learned in exercise physiology classes that primates are at least 6x as stong as humans per kilo bodyweight. A silverback (220Kg) weighs about twice as much as a large human. So about 12x as strong as a human athlete.

Gorillas have far more stable shoulders and forelimbs (the weakest link) than humans so they are not going to have to worry about dislocations or torn tendons.

Humans muscles activate sequentially. Gorillas can activate all muscle fibres in bundle simultaneously. This give massive explosive force.

http://www.quora.com/How-much-can-a-...la-bench-press

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Jacco Macacco was a fighting ape or monkey who was exhibited in monkey-baiting matches at the Westminster Pit in London in the early 1820s. He achieved some measure of fame among the sporting community through his reputed prodigious record of victories against dogs, but was brought to wider attention by depiction in popular literature, artworks and by citation in speeches to Parliament by the animal welfare campaigner Richard Martin. Jacco's most famous fight, against the equally well-known bitch Puss, seems to have marked the end of his career: he may have died as a result of injuries received during the match or of an unrelated illness sometime afterwards.

Jacco was reported to weigh 10 to 12 pounds (4.5 to 5.4 kg) and was pitched against dogs of up to twice his weight. The 1821 advertising broadsheet for his match against the 19-pound bitch states he was open to challenges from "any dog in England for 100 Guineas of 24lbs being double his own weight".[12] According to Lennox:

His mode of attack, or rather of defence, was, at first, to present his back or neck to the dog, and to shift and tumble about until he could lay hold on the arm or chest, when he ascended to the windpipe, clawing and biting away, which usually occupied him about one minute and a half, and if his antagonist was not speedily with drawn, his death was certain; the monkey exhibited a frightful appearance, being deluged with blood — but it was that of his opponent alone; as the toughness and flexibility of his own skin rendered him impervious to the teeth of the dog.[2]

Lennox writes that after several fights, Jacco adapted his technique and would overcome his canine opponents by leaping directly on their backs and manoeuvring himself into a position where he could tear at their windpipes while remaining out of reach of their jaws. Lennox reports him as having overcome fourteen opponents in total and the advertising broadsheet states he had already been involved in thirteen matches "with some of the best dogs of the day including his combat with the wonderful bitch Puss of T. Cribbs and the famed Oxford one".[12][note 6] Both Berkeley and Lawrence Fitz-Barnard (writing in Fighting Sports in 1922) cast doubt on Jacco's ability to beat any canine opponent in an unrigged match though. Berkeley points to the bleeding of the dogs by Cribb and stresses the tendency of writers to exaggerate their accounts of simian ferocity and strength,[11] while Fitz-Barnard dismisses out-of-hand the possibility of any but the largest apes being able to prevail against a fighting dog. Fitz-Barnard claims that Jacco was a "stock performer and put up a great battle with an indifferent dog. The monkey was given a club to assist him..."[13] Most accounts agree that Jacco was held in a small cage when not fighting and was secured by a short length of thin metal chain during his matches.[6][11]

primates beat cats, dogs, bears.

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Imagine a Gorilla doing this to a tiger/lion/bear

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It's from your country nick

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Someone even made a song about how monkeys dominate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYNBiJCXuR4

My money's on the monkey too.

[HitandRun Reggie]

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Leopards are known for nipping off females and younglings because Gorillas travel in gangs. They are almost always females or young gorillas and it is always an ambush from out of nowhere or when they are sleeping. Check your sources. Primates beat felines. There was a fighting monkey back in Europe in the 1800's. It used to go up against cats and dogs and it would always beat them the same way... It allowed them to strike with their jaws, and then the monkey would slip under and bite the neck, utilizing the primates elite mobility and climbing.

The point is that if small leopards have the offensive weaponry to bring down a gorilla then a grizzly bear with it's 4" claws and a maw full of teeth meant for tearing apart the thick hides of large prey animals, would easily be able tear apart a comparatively thin skinned opponent. Then you combine the enormous size difference....The fact that you have to present a special scenario where the gorilla slips under the gizzly and bites it in the neck, shows how realistic it's chances are.

Also the instincts of a herbivore animal from an environment where it is not used to being attacked by predators on a regular basis, to deliver a killing blow to another large animal is extremely suspect.

[Nick Young]

The point is that if small leopards have the offensive weaponry to bring down a gorilla then a grizzly bear with it's 4" claws and a maw full of teeth meant for tearing apart the thick hides of large prey animals, would easily be able tear apart a comparatively thin skinned opponent. Then you combine the enormous size difference....The fact that you have to present a special scenario where the gorilla slips under the gizzly and bites it in the neck, shows how realistic it's chances are.

Also the instincts of a herbivore animal from an environment where it is not used to being attacked by predators on a regular basis, to deliver a killing blow to another large animal is extremely suspect.

A ninja has the weaponry to take down an armored knight, if the ninja attacks when the knight isn't expecting it or asleep.

In open combat, with no trees to hide in, European Knight destroys the ninja 10/10 times.


Leopard has the weaponry, but their main advantage is stealth, the element of surprise and opportunism.

[RedBlackAttack]

There have been documented cases of grizzly bears standing 10-feet tall and weighing over 2,000 pounds. They have razor sharp teeth and claws. Most importantly, grizzly bears are the absolute top of the food chain. An adult grizzly bear has only humans to fear and even gunshot wounds to the head are not guaranteed to end their assault.

The bears' skull is so thick and dense, hunting rounds for grizzly bears start with a .357 magnum. There is a very good chance that a 9mm or 40 caliber bullet would only make him angry.

At the turn of the last Century a Grizzly Bear was terrorizing the Wyoming Territory. The Territorial Government posted a $10,000 in gold reward on this bear. Many hunters went after the bear for the reward and many hunters never returned. Years later a rusted rifle or belt buckle would be found.

When the bear was finally killed (after killing the hunter’s dozen well-trained hunting dogs and taking at least three magazines from a .30-40 Krag), over a hundred rifle rounds were found in the bear’s body. None had killed the bear. The biggest surprise was discovered when the bear’s skull was opened. There were five old handgun rounds of diverse calibers lodged in the bear’s brain. These had been fired up from under the bear and none of these medium and large bore revolver bullets had succeeded in killing the bear.

http://issuu.com/doc_viewer/docs/document_246/7


This isn't to say that a Silverback Gorilla is a chump. If cornered, they're extremely dangerous. But they do not inhabit the same regions as a freaking grizzly bear. In their own habitat, they occasionally succumb to leopard or crocodile attacks.

Fact is, a gorilla would be smart enough to know to get away if a grizzly bear were tracking it. Their intelligence would come in handy, which is why they'd likely survive by getting up a tree or evading the bear some other way.

There would be no fight... and if there was, RIP gorilla.

[Nick Young]

It's from your country nick

Jacco is still celebrated here as a great fighting champion.