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    Default Re: With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawker
    It's kind of funny but this post pretty much proved what me, nexxus, wtfmonkey and rasheed1 have been saying all along.

    There is no difference between the two parties.

    And Obama has defended Bush's wiretapping.
    Where were these people when all that was happening under a Republican (white) President?

    I just can't believe they are complaining about higher taxes when their taxes are actually getting cut. WTF.

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    Default Re: With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

    If Texas were to secede, I'd stay in Texas.

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    Default Re: With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fatal9
    Where were these people when all that was happening under a Republican (white) President?

    I just can't believe they are complaining about higher taxes when their taxes are actually getting cut. WTF.
    I completely agree with you on this on the complaining. They have been people that have seen the light though and I'm quick criticize people who complain about things about Obama when they supported Bush as well.

    Some of those people might be wealthy enough to where their taxes would be cut. They would have a point to complain.

    To me, it's about principle. I disagree with the principle. I may not ever be able to reach that amount of money to where I'm taxed 40% or whatever it may be but I can still and will disagree with it based on principle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatal9
    Just caught some of the teabag coverage on TV (ie. redneck gathering) and the right wing fringe is actually scary.

    These zombies are protesting higher taxes when their taxes are getting cut.
    Obama has increased sin tax, and I believe a tax on gas. Also, he's raising some taxes and cutting others.
    They are against bailouts (which are necessary) but the GOP President proposed and started them.
    Bailouts are not necessary.
    They are against spending but the GOP President is the one who went to an unnecessary war and spent an insane amount of money.
    Obama's 3.5 trillon spending budget for next year is insane. That might be more than Bush spent. I'm not sure, but it's ridiculous either way.
    They want freedom but it was the GOP President who made it legal to listen in on their phone calls.
    No comment on this, because I have always been against the Patriot act, and I think most republicans only supported it because it was Bush's idea.

    Seriously, what is going on with these crazies? Never mind the racist undertones of some of these signs that were being paraded today, the fact that some of them are just disturbing (in the video below a guy with a flag where a chopped off right arm is holding a bloody sword because he fears tyranny, this whole sentiment of "government is coming to steal my guns"). I mean this is actually getting insane. The fact that a whole news network was promoting this makes this even sadder.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNLQ3rEZkoo
    ^ WTF. Ted Nugent and Glenn Beck are the spokesmen for these people?
    Quote Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green
    Am I alone in thinking the Republican Party has gone insane?
    Don't pull a starface and generalize an entire party because of an individuals actions.

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    Default Re: With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

    Quote Originally Posted by bdreason
    Economists around the globe have already predicted the seperation of the United States. It's not far fetched to consider that certain states will want to become their own Countries if it is in their best interest. The main issue will be establishing a standing Army that could defy the US Military. Probably not that hard considering most of our Military is deployed overseas, and our National Gaurd is a joke that can't even secure our own borders.
    It was one Russian professor who predicted American disintegration and Russia coming out as a superpower (surprise ). Anyone who takes him seriously is dumb as nails. He predicted Mexico taking over the southern US, Canada the north, China the West, and EU the East.

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    Default Re: With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

    Quote Originally Posted by i seen hippos
    I'm on their side if they got Ted Nugent.

    Me too. I will wango tango and feel the effects of the cat scratch fever for whatever cause he's promoting. Plus, he makes some quality beef jerky.

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    Default Re: With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawker
    If Texas were to secede, I'd stay in Texas.
    me too...

    -Dooms

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    Default Re: With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

    Quote Originally Posted by D-Shark
    me too...

    -Dooms
    I need to get guns.

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    Default Re: With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawker
    I need to get guns.
    Food, Medicine, and Supplies > Guns.

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    Default Re: With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

    LOL at bailouts are not necessary. Who needs banks right? It's not like every business and family depends on them. Those paycheques you are getting are coming from a line of credit from your company's banks. That house/car you want to buy is going to be financed by a bank. Trade and business would collapse under these conditions.

    Yea, letting Lehman go under was such a great decision right? It triggered a credit freeze across the world and you want to let multiple large institutions that are interconnected go under? You are insane.

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    Default Re: With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fatal9
    LOL at bailouts are not necessary. Who needs banks right? It's not like every business and family depends on them. Those paycheques you are getting are coming from a line of credit from your company's banks. That house/car you want to buy is going to be financed by a bank. Trade and business would collapse under these conditions.

    Yea, letting Lehman go under was such a great decision right? It triggered a credit freeze across the world and you want to let multiple large institutions that are interconnected go under? You are insane.
    I'd rather that happen then to give away billions of tax payers dollars to corporations who failed. That's not capitalism at all. The economy is going to have to crash before it can repair itself and the more money we give away to try to fix the economy the worse the crash will be. Throwing money into the economy doesn't fix anything. It prolonged the great depression and it's making our situation worse now.

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    Default Re: With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fatal9
    It was one Russian professor who predicted American disintegration and Russia coming out as a superpower (surprise ). Anyone who takes him seriously is dumb as nails. He predicted Mexico taking over the southern US, Canada the north, China the West, and EU the East.
    Karl Marx predicted this over 100 years ago. A Capitalist-Democracy will eventually transform into a Socialist regime to avoid a revolution. During that transformation, it is possible (and likely) that certain demographics will wish to form their own Governments / Unions. When dealing with a landmass the size of Russia (USSR) or United States, it becomes even more likely that specific regions will see benefits (resources) in seperating from the collective Nation.

    The real question is; how does Texas benefit from being part of the United States? Protection from Bin Laden?

    The US certainly doesn't do a good job of protecting Texas's borders.

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    Default Re: With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fatal9
    LOL at bailouts are not necessary. Who needs banks right? It's not like every business and family depends on them. Those paycheques you are getting are coming from a line of credit from your company's banks. That house/car you want to buy is going to be financed by a bank. Trade and business would collapse under these conditions.

    Yea, letting Lehman go under was such a great decision right? It triggered a credit freeze across the world and you want to let multiple large institutions that are interconnected go under? You are insane.
    DUH. obviously we need banks. But fractional reserve banking is as good as fraud. They literally preach money manipulation. And what does the United States do? They REWARD THIS SCUMBAGS and PUNISH the everyday hard working americans.

    These bailouts are only re inflating the bubble. and when it bursts again, it might even be greater than the great depression.

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    Default Re: With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

    Quote Originally Posted by bdreason
    Karl Marx predicted this over 100 years ago. A Capitalist-Democracy will eventually transform into a Socialist regime to avoid a revolution. During that transformation, it is possible (and likely) that certain demographics will wish to form their own Governments / Unions. When dealing with a landmass the size of Russia (USSR) or United States, it becomes even more likely that specific regions will see benefits (resources) in seperating from the collective Nation.

    The real question is; how does Texas benefit from being part of the United States? Protection from Bin Laden?

    The US certainly doesn't do a good job of protecting Texas's borders.


    That's why communist Russia/Eastern Europe, China are or already have slowly moved towards a more capitalist system right? US has been through much harder times and this was something that was actually being said during the Depression that "capitalism is losing etc etc" and from that period emerged the mixed market economy (private enterprise + government oversight) that has been the best performing economic system in the last century.

    You are saying some really outlandish things right now and I'll try to do my best to ignore you.

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    Default Re: With Rick Perry openly contemplating the secession of Texas...

    Ted Nugent and Glenn Beck?

    A washed up 70 rocker turned redneck and a cry baby .

    Nice crew.

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