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    Default Re: If LBJ ends up with Back-2-Back "MVP Sweeps", He is LOCKED IN Top 10 GOAT

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183935

    Isiah Thomas, John Havlicek, Bob Pettit, JUlius Erving were ranked higher than Kobe before he won a Finals MVP.
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    Default Re: If LBJ ends up with Back-2-Back "MVP Sweeps", He is LOCKED IN Top 10 GOAT

    Quote Originally Posted by DMV2
    Kobe has always had a great hype machine behind his name.

    1998 All-Star appearance is a prime example.
    Well, he would have had made it in '99 but there was no ASG that year. So he deserves 11 at that time still.

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    Default Re: If LBJ ends up with Back-2-Back "MVP Sweeps", He is LOCKED IN Top 10 GOAT

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23
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    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18393

    Isiah Thomas, John Havlicek, Bob Pettit, JUlius Erving were ranked higher than Kobe before he won a Finals MVP.
    Oh yeah because he didn't win FMVP he isn't as good as them.

    Kobe 2001 Playoffs: 29-7-6 on 56TS, 2001 Finals: 25-8-6 on 50TS
    Kobe 2002 Playoffs: 27-6-5 on 51TS, 2002 Finals: 27-6-5 on 62TS

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    Default Re: If LBJ ends up with Back-2-Back "MVP Sweeps", He is LOCKED IN Top 10 GOAT

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23
    Kobe was not yet a top 20 player of all time back in 2008.

    So I'd like to hear how Lebron was even top 35 before last season. I'd love to hear how he was ahead of Wade (who I honestly had ahead of him before last season).


    Quote Originally Posted by DMV2
    Top 30 seems about right for Kobe, 1996-2008.

    3 championships, 1 regular season MVP.

    Pau Gasol really saved his career, in terms of all-time rankings.


    Seems rather ridiculous.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23
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    Isiah Thomas, John Havlicek, Bob Pettit, JUlius Erving were ranked higher than Kobe before he won a Finals MVP.

    I disagree, but it's somewhat irrelevant. The actual run that goes into the run is how you judge a guy. But we're literally ignoring 3 NBA titles -two if which were barely won- because he was the team's second best player? And the one dominant title was won with him as arguably the best player thru the first 3 rounds. I don't get this. I'm not saying you're a stan and a Kobe Hater or anything like that, but this line of thinking is always very strange to me. And I said a page or two ago, this approach to ranking is really negative.

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    Default Re: If LBJ ends up with Back-2-Back "MVP Sweeps", He is LOCKED IN Top 10 GOAT

    Nope. It will take more titles, not popularity contests.

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