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Old 01-25-2016, 12:52 PM   #1
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Default If you could give value to each position, what it be?

Give each position a value. In the end it should add up to 100 for each side of the ball.


Offense:

QB:
WR: (x 3)
RB:
TE:
OL: (x 5)


Defense:

DL: (x 4)
LB: (x 3)
CB: (x 2)
S: (x2)


(just copy/paste my template here above to make it easier:)

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Old 01-25-2016, 12:55 PM   #2
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Default Re: If you could give value to each position, what it be?

Take the average salary for each position...convert it to a %

there is your answer


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Old 01-25-2016, 12:59 PM   #3
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Take the average salary for each position...convert it to a %

there is your answer



Interesting....RB's are that low though?
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Old 01-25-2016, 01:02 PM   #4
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Interesting....RB's are that low though?
well, I definitely don't think they are less important than a kicker...maybe that isn't the best way.


that SHOULD be the way to do this though...they SHOULD get paid in accordance to how important they are.
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Old 01-25-2016, 01:05 PM   #5
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Default Re: If you could give value to each position, what it be?

yeah that is not a good way to do it...never mind

center is high for the simple fact that teams only carry one or two centers...so the 'average' salary for centers is basically all full time starters...compared to RB, where a teams carries 3-4 of them, and the average salary is being brought down by a bunch of scrubs.
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Old 01-25-2016, 01:08 PM   #6
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Default Re: If you could give value to each position, what it be?

You'd have to get the average salaries of JUST the starters only...that would at least be closer.
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Old 01-25-2016, 01:19 PM   #7
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Default Re: If you could give value to each position, what it be?

Don't listen to Prime, he's an idiot.

He wants you to believe a TE is less valuable than a K.

Here are my thoughts:

QB a tier by themselves

Pass Rushers who can also play the run is the next tier by themselves

You could make the argument for a number of positions after that.

Who's better, Josh Norman or Gronk? I see the importance of a great two way TE as much as a shut down CB.

Who's more important, Joe Thomas or Dez Bryant? I see an argument for both. I've seen Joe Thomas take out elite pass rushers time and time again. I'm sure the Pats fans wish they had someone to contain Von Miller yesterday. Would've been a different game.

I think punters are the least valuable. Followed by FBs.

I think OG is the least valuable offensive spot after that.

As for combined position groups value, which I think is a totally different discussion than individuals playing one position:

QBs

OLINE = DLINE (Including edge rushers)

Corners
WRS

Safeties

ILB = TE

RBs
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Old 01-25-2016, 01:43 PM   #8
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Default Re: If you could give value to each position, what it be?

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You'd have to get the average salaries of JUST the starters only...that would at least be closer.

Yeah. The list probably includes the third string and even fourth string RB.

And teams only carry one kicker.

And then things like that would affect that whole list though, as some positions have more or less back-ups per team.
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Yeah. The list probably includes the third string and even fourth string RB.

And teams only carry one kicker.

And then things like that would affect that whole list though, as some positions have more or less back-ups per team.
exactly

It would be close to accurate if it was just the starters though...where the top-32 TEs would average much more than the top-32 kickers.

QB is being held down dramatically by back-ups there too...the average salary for a STARTING QB is probably around $15m, not $4m
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Old 01-27-2016, 08:33 PM   #10
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Default Re: If you could give value to each position, what it be?

QBs, pass rushers and blindside Tackles are by far the most important pieces in football (imo).

As it pertains to the modern era Corners are becoming more and more important (I'd argue that LCB is the fourth most valuable position outside of QB, DE/OLB and LT now) and Running Backs are becoming less important.

And as much as I enjoy watching them, Nose Tackles and Guards are probably the least important.
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QBs, pass rushers and blindside Tackles are by far the most important pieces in football (imo).

As it pertains to the modern era Corners are becoming more and more important (I'd argue that LCB is the fourth most valuable position outside of QB, DE/OLB and LT now) and Running Backs are becoming less important.

And as much as I enjoy watching them, Nose Tackles and Guards are probably the least important.

Yes the game is different now.

Sucks for me because many of my favorite players growing up were all running backs...Emmitt, Terrell Davis, Fred Taylor, etc.
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Currently.

Qbs
CB
Pass rusher
Wr
Tackle
Lbs
Safeties
Tight end
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