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    Default Re: LeBron should foul out every game...

    Quote Originally Posted by nba_55
    Beverley was clearly moving, by rules, that's a blocking foul.
    just because a defender is sliding his feet and playing defense doesn't give you the right to run right into them...

    all that is doing is punishing active defenders and rewarding reckless offensive players...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerrySeinfeld
    as they should be since the officials have proven to have the mentality that if a star abuses something enough times, they'll just stop calling it so that they aren't constantly putting the star into foul trouble.... this is something that refs have came out and said that the nba used to specifically meet with their officials over, making sure that they are avoiding calling fouls on stars in 50/50 situations and what not.... and you saw that today, LeBron could have easily had 2 technicals this game but because he already had 1 the officials gave him a big leash and were giving him just about every call in the 2nd half...

    as a defender why don't you have the right to the spot you are standing in? if the offensive player is going to recklessly barrel into you or better yet run right next to you while trying to push you away rather than shield the ball with good dribbling form, they deserve to get the foul called on them every time. this style of basketball where offensive players just pick up the ball and run recklessly into the paint and get bailed out with a call is not fun to watch, it's flat out ugly basketball.
    except Lebron is the last player you should mention when talking about being bailed out when driving to the rim. he gets more, stronger fouls driving to the rim and not getting the calls than any player in the league (except probably Melo) you know the players you're describing? KD, Harden, and Westbrook. it's funny they all played together in OKC.

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    Default Re: LeBron should foul out every game...

    Quote Originally Posted by JerrySeinfeld
    just because a defender is sliding his feet and playing defense doesn't give you the right to run right into them...

    all that is doing is punishing active defenders and rewarding reckless offensive players...
    That's the rule. If you are moving, it's a blocking foul, it has been that way for years. You have positioned, not moving to get the charge. Beverley was clearly moving, so it's a blocking foul. It's that simple.
    You arguing that it was a charge kills all your credibility and your thread.

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    It's not just Lebron, lots of players do the off hand push to protect the ball, just needs to be called more.

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    Default Re: LeBron should foul out every game...

    Quote Originally Posted by nba_55
    That's the rule. If you are moving, it's a blocking foul, it has been that way for years. You have positioned, not moving to get the charge. Beverley was clearly moving, so it's a blocking foul. It's that simple.
    You arguing that it was a charge kills all your credibility and your thread.
    Sorry but that's incorrect. See: http://www.nba.com/features/misunder...es_051128.html

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    Default Re: LeBron should foul out every game...

    Quote Originally Posted by JerrySeinfeld
    just because a defender is sliding his feet and playing defense doesn't give you the right to run right into them...

    all that is doing is punishing active defenders and rewarding reckless offensive players...

    if a defender is sliding his feet, he is not set, and any contact happening would be a blocking foul

    if you have a problem with that rule, take it up with the commish

    historically, the league has always punished defense and rewarded offense. that's why over the years, you would see the league changing the rules to benefit the offense and punish the defense.

    you can hardly touch players nowadays.

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    Default Re: LeBron should foul out every game...

    Quote Originally Posted by josh99
    It's not just Lebron, lots of players do the off hand push to protect the ball, just needs to be called more.
    Honestly every guard in the league uses their off arm to ward off defenders. It's just more noticeable with Bron cause he's a lot bigger than most ball handlers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I<3NBA

    if a defender is sliding his feet, he is not set, and any contact happening would be a blocking foul

    if you have a problem with that rule, take it up with the commish

    historically, the league has always punished defense and rewarded offense. that's why over the years, you would see the league changing the rules to benefit the offense and punish the defense.

    you can hardly touch players nowadays.
    Are you saying you don't have a problem with that rule if thats the "correct" call?

    All I'm saying, correct or not, is that they need to quit calling that shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh99
    ''. On a drive to the basket, the defender must get to his position before the shooter starts his upward shooting motion. ''

    Yeah, i was correct! Beverley was not in his position, he was still moving and trying to get there.

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    Default Re: LeBron should foul out every game...

    Quote Originally Posted by JerrySeinfeld
    Are you saying you don't have a problem with that rule if thats the "correct" call?

    All I'm saying, correct or not, is that they need to quit calling that shit.
    Then, don't say that it was an uncalled offensive because it clearly wasn't. It was the right call by rules.

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    Default Re: LeBron should foul out every game...

    Quote Originally Posted by josh99
    If you slide sideways in front of a player after they have already picked up their dribble, it's a blocking foul. Period. That is exactly what Beverly did.

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    also don't know who this "Simon" is but he appears to have taken up free rent in the mind of these lebron stans....

    I'm not even saying what lebron is doing is wrong, it's just what he's conditioned to do because he gets rewarded for this style of play...

    just saying that silver needs to have them reevaluate the way they call the game, particularly in regards to situations where the offensive player CREATES the contact, and they also need to look at getting the officials under control with technical calls...

    this applies to those situations where a defender leaves his feet and the offensive player goes way off balance, basically jumps into the defender, and looks for the call... IMO if you're gonna make the choice to jump right into the defender then fine... just don't expect the call.

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    Default Re: LeBron should foul out every game...

    Quote Originally Posted by JT123
    Honestly every guard in the league uses their off arm to ward off defenders. It's just more noticeable with Bron cause he's a lot bigger than most ball handlers.
    CP3 does it more than anyone, OP is not complaining about him.

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    Default Re: LeBron should foul out every game...

    Quote Originally Posted by JerrySeinfeld
    Are you saying you don't have a problem with that rule if thats the "correct" call?

    All I'm saying, correct or not, is that they need to quit calling that shit.
    i have a problem with tic-tac fouls. those bump and player gets a call are bullshit. especially when i see all the defender does is stand straight up and doesn't even move and it's the offensive player bumping into him.

    that's bullshit. when the offensive player initiates the contact, they shouldn't get a call.

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    Default Re: LeBron should foul out every game...

    Quote Originally Posted by JT123
    If you slide sideways in front of a player after they have already picked up their dribble, it's a blocking foul. Period. That is exactly what Beverly did.
    And on the link that he posted, it's exactly written that, I don't know why he says that it is incorrect.

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