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Old 10-19-2017, 12:55 PM   #31
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This is a marketing technique. It's easier to win people when you have a widely accepted benchmark to compare to.

i.e Saying "iphone 8 is 3x faster than iPhone 7" is much more appealing than saying "iphone 8 is very fast"

With Trump, all you get is an empty case.

He can't even offer condolences properly.
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Old 10-19-2017, 12:55 PM   #32
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yup... thats why if a cop got killed i wouldnt expect people afterwards to console his family with "he knew what he signed up for"...

When a Phoenix PD officer was shot and killed not too long ago, during the news conference, one of the PR folks said something to the extent of " was a great officer that showed up every day, doing his job as well as he could knowing the risks."

Now, let's omit it:

" knowing the risks."


Not very different. It's hard to say whether or not it's a 'poor choice' of words without knowing what was said around it as context matters.

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Example 1: "he knew what he was signing up for and he bravely put his life on the line because he's a patriot who loves his country. We can never thank him enough for his sacrifice. He gave his life to protect his country and he's a true hero, but it still hurts"

Example 2: "he knew what he was signing up for so you probably should have expected this. You should have seen this coming, but it still hurts"
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:06 PM   #33
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FAKE NEWS. There is no evidence and this is coming from one of the biggest Trump haters around. Why would a President do this . President Trump is one of the most pro military Presidents we've had in a long time. Democrats are heartless to use a grieving family and the events in Las Vegas for political gains.
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:19 PM   #34
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Two things nobody mentioned here. The Congress woman that was present was offended that the President never said the soldier's name and he was disrespectful. Trump referred to the wife of the soldiers and didnt know her name either.

Trump probably said something disrespectful to the family he inappropriately said he would give $25,000 to back in June. He thinks money will solve his shortcomings. Six families of fallen soldiers said they were never contacted by the president. He lies a bit too much and about silliness. He was worried about being called a moron at this time and the football kneeling stuff when he doesn't even mentioned that 4 military guys died after he was given clearance to talk about it.

He can't lead by example because he lacks leadership. He wants these sobs to be fired when he neglects his own patriotic duties to a far worse extent. Its getting worse as he the scope of the job affects him.

The irony is that him calling out NFL players was all in the name of patriotism. Yet this guy wait 2 weeks to call the family of fallen soldiers who died for their country
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:43 PM   #35
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The widow is pregnant and has two children already. She was just told that she couldn't see the body because it was too torn up. She then got the call from Trump who apparently didnt look at the briefing notes and has a clumsy delivery anyway isnt the man to talk to. But Trump should have been seasoned at this point, he lied and said he did it with the 20 preceeding deaths.

He could apologize. He could send money like he lied and said he did before.

As for the posters talking about grandfathers and fathers who knew it was their risk to die you would let your pregnant mother be subject to a man telling her that your dad knowingly subjected himself to death at his funeral. You guys are good with that? Its disrespectful to both of your parents and you.
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:46 PM   #36
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The widow is pregnant and has two children already. She was just told that she couldn't see the body because it was too torn up. She then got the call from Trump who apparently didnt look at the briefing notes and has a clumsy delivery anyway isnt the man to talk to. But Trump should have been seasoned at this point, he lied and said he did it with the 20 preceeding deaths.

He could apologize. He could send money like he lied and said he did before.

As for the posters talking about grandfathers and fathers who knew it was their risk to die you would let your pregnant mother be subject to a man telling her that your dad knowingly subjected himself to death at his funeral. You guys are good with that? Its disrespectful to both of your parents and you.

Yes. Everyone knows.

It was no secret I could be killed. Everyone was already well aware.

Being told your husband/father/brother/son joined the military KNOWING the full extent of what could happen is a compliment because despite knowing your life could end, you signed up anyway. Very few people have the balls to do so.

If you find any veteran who says otherwise, they were a fobbit and never saw any real combat.

Also, that Democrat bitch is nothing more than a hypocrite. That's why she's been shitting on American troops every chance she's gotten. But now she cares about us? **** outta here. Nobody wants her fake ass sympathy.
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:50 PM   #37
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The irony is that him calling out NFL players was all in the name of patriotism. Yet this guy wait 2 weeks to call the family of fallen soldiers who died for their country
Yes he was supposed to tell the public on Oct 4 but was tweeting about the football players. Nobody knew we had anything going on over there were military are dying at.
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FAKE NEWS. There is no evidence and this is coming from one of the biggest Trump haters around. Why would a President do this . President Trump is one of the most pro military Presidents we've had in a long time. Democrats are heartless to use a grieving family and the events in Las Vegas for political gains.

Trump isn't pro-military, he's pro-bombing shit and using veterans as political props. He's your typical GOP garbage posing as a populist.
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:55 PM   #39
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Yes. Everyone knows.

It was no secret I could be killed. Everyone was already well aware.

Being told your husband/father/brother/son joined the military KNOWING the full extent of what could happen is a compliment because despite knowing your life could end, you signed up anyway. Very few people have the balls to do so.

If you find any veteran who says otherwise, they were a fobbit and never saw any real combat.



yeah it certainly takes a lot of balls to invade foreign nations without any justification. it takes a ton of balls to hunt down a bunch of cave dwelling "terrorists" with ancient ak-47s as a member of the most advanced and well equipped military force this planet has ever seen.
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The irony is that him calling out NFL players was all in the name of patriotism. Yet this guy wait 2 weeks to call the family of fallen soldiers who died for their country
Trump only did this after the press called him out on it the day before. Without that, he would have NEVER called. He tried to throw Obama under the bus, but when that failed, the Orange Shitstain had no choice but to call and pretend to care. Such a patriot...
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:57 PM   #41
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yeah it certainly takes a lot of balls to invade foreign nations without any justification. it takes a ton of balls to hunt down a bunch of cave dwelling "terrorists" with ancient ak-47s as a member of the most advanced and well equipped military force this planet has ever seen.

Ha you're so hilarious. What a burn, bruh.

You wouldn't be laughing when these cave dwellers are planting bombs where you sleep and shooting at you with Russian AA guns though.

You're a little bitch, and you'd have hidden in a hole at the first sound of gunfire. Its okay to admit. Not everyone is cut out for it. Makes you wonder, if its so easy, why caskets keep coming back, huh?
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Old 10-19-2017, 02:06 PM   #42
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Ha you're so hilarious. What a burn, bruh.

You wouldn't be laughing when these cave dwellers are planting bombs where you sleep and shooting at you with Russian AA guns though.

You're a little bitch, and you'd have hidden in a hole at the first sound of gunfire. Its okay to admit. Not everyone is cut out for it.

You're clearly the little bitch if you think that invading third world countries as part of the US military requires balls. Those impoverished cave dwellers who are forced to fight against impossible odds have 10x larger balls than you.

Anyway you are right, I am definitely not cut out for any job where I am required to unquestioningly follow every order that is given to me... especially if those orders involve killing impoverished foreigners in far-away countries that we have no business invading in the first place.

Any person who actively pursues a career that involves violently killing other people is a worthless human being.

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Yes. Everyone knows.

It was no secret I could be killed. Everyone was already well aware.

Being told your husband/father/brother/son joined the military KNOWING the full extent of what could happen is a compliment because despite knowing your life could end, you signed up anyway. Very few people have the balls to do so.

Its not about the dead guy at all? I don't understand why the concept of the pregnant mother never reached you. You should see a psychologist about love. No way should you have come out thinking about the dead guys feelings.
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If you find any veteran who says otherwise, they were a fobbit and never saw any real combat.

Also, that Democrat bitch is nothing more than a hypocrite. That's why she's been shitting on American troops every chance she's gotten. But now she cares about us? **** outta here. Nobody wants her fake ass sympathy.
She was his mentor for many years and didn't hinder his military decisions.
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As for the posters talking about grandfathers and fathers who knew it was their risk to die you would let your pregnant mother be subject to a man telling her that your dad knowingly subjected himself to death at his funeral. You guys are good with that? Its disrespectful to both of your parents and you.


"He was a great man, and a great patriot, that knew the risks and still went out to fight for his country."

So, you are telling me that would be a disrespectful statement?

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When a Phoenix PD officer was shot and killed not too long ago, during the news conference, one of the PR folks said something to the extent of " was a great officer that showed up every day, doing his job as well as he could knowing the risks."

I guess that is also disrespectful.
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Old 10-19-2017, 02:23 PM   #45
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You're clearly the little bitch if you think that invading third world countries as part of the US military requires balls. Those impoverished cave dwellers who are forced to fight against impossible odds have 10x larger balls than you.

Anyway you are right, I am definitely not cut out for any job where I am required to unquestioningly follow every order that is given to me... especially if those orders involve killing impoverished foreigners in far-away countries that we have no business invading in the first place.

Any person who actively pursues a career that involves violently killing other people is a worthless human being.

I guess you knew my actual orders, and I was just following fake ones. I get it, you KNOW what I was doing because you read it in a CNN article.

You're about as qualified to speak on the war as Bill Nye is to qualified to speak on science.... But it doesn't stop you from doing so anyway. Carry on living in your fantasy world.
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