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Old 10-19-2019, 03:35 PM   #1
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Raptors have just signed Siakam to a 4 year $130 million contract. Expecting a big year from him. Raptors will be better than many think.
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Old 10-19-2019, 03:50 PM   #2
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He's a good young talent but he hasn't shown that he can carry an offense. TO will have to be a team with a bunch of guys getting 14-18 points.
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Old 10-19-2019, 03:55 PM   #3
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He's a good young talent but he hasn't shown that he can carry an offense. TO will have to be a team with a bunch of guys getting 14-18 points.

He hasn't shown it yet because he's making the leap from being a project to a max player. They're not paying the player he is now they're paying him for what they think he'll become. Now time to sit back and watch
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Old 10-19-2019, 04:17 PM   #4
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130 million for a slightly above average player?
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Old 10-19-2019, 04:18 PM   #5
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33 mill a year for a guy who had 1 good year
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Old 10-19-2019, 04:56 PM   #6
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He'll be worth it.
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Old 10-19-2019, 05:08 PM   #7
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130 million for a slightly above average player?
He's better than anybody on the Nets not named Durant.
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Old 10-19-2019, 05:11 PM   #8
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Raptors have just signed Siakam to a 4 year $130 million contract. Expecting a big year from him. Raptors will be better than many think.


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Old 10-19-2019, 05:22 PM   #9
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He's better than anybody on the Nets not named Durant.
He's not better than Kyrie or LeVert lol

Siakam is just a role player he will never be a star
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Old 10-19-2019, 05:24 PM   #10
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He's not better than Kyrie or LeVert lol

Siakam is just a role player he will never be a star
Scoring fancy buckets doesn't make you a better player. Being able to play very good on both ends of the floor, can make you a better player than the next guy, however.

Can Kyrie guard Siakam? The answer is no
Can Siakam guard Kyrie? The answer is yes
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Old 10-19-2019, 05:31 PM   #11
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Scoring fancy buckets doesn't make you a better player. Being able to play very good on both ends of the floor, can make you a better player than the next guy, however.

Can Kyrie guard Siakam? The answer is no
Can Siakam guard Kyrie? The answer is yes


This is true, and I've always believed most 'stat' guys who get max contracts (Westbrook, Melo, Arenas types) weren't remotely worth them.

But neither are role players tbh, even the best ones.

If you don't have one of the top 5 or so elite difference makers in the game, max contracts are pretty much just wasting too much cap space on one guy.

That's too much money for a guy who doesn't make a 15-20 win difference like a Lebron or a Durant or a regular-season-Curry.
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Old 10-19-2019, 08:07 PM   #12
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He hasn't shown it yet because he's making the leap from being a project to a max player. They're not paying the player he is now they're paying him for what they think he'll become. Now time to sit back and watch
I know he's being paid on potential, I just don't see him as being 20+ ppg scorer right now. I don't recall him ever being featured in the offense, but just talking contract, he was going to be one of the highest-regarded free agents so I get why he's being paid like that, but it may take a while for him to play at an All-Star level.
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Old 10-20-2019, 01:19 AM   #13
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I know he's being paid on potential, I just don't see him as being 20+ ppg scorer right now. I don't recall him ever being featured in the offense, but just talking contract, he was going to be one of the highest-regarded free agents so I get why he's being paid like that, but it may take a while for him to play at an All-Star level.

Wait...why not? He just put up 17ppg in the season after doing like 7 the year before and upped that to 19 across the playoffs where things ratchet up and teams are able to scheme to 20 in the finals against Draymond Green. He's entering a year where he'll be the focal point of the offense without Kawhi, I don't think an uptick of 3ppg is unreasonable given

A) the new opportunity and
B) the growth trajectory he's shown over the past 3 years.

He wasn't the "featured guy" because Kawhi was there so we'll see how he does being featured this year. Pretty sure he was at 20/game in those 23 games without Kawhi anyway, and I don't think it much of a stretch to say being an all-star this year is a realistic goal.

Lastly, keep in mind Otto Porter Jr. is getting $106, Wiggins $158 and Parsons $94. I'm sure there's many more, this isn't unreasonable in todays NBA for a guy with his potential and motor.
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Old 10-20-2019, 01:29 AM   #14
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his agent is the mvp
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:31 AM   #15
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Neither hate nor love it. I feel like too many fans these days get caught up in the dollar amounts of these contracts. If he was making $5/mil a year less, what are the Raptors gonna get with that cap space? An Ed Davis or Danuel House at best.
I trust the Raptors Gm to be able to build a good team while paying Siakam 25% of the cap.
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