Jordan, Bird, Magic, Shaq and Kareem
Stans like to say how Kobe accomplished a lot and ranked him above the likes of Bird and Magic, completely ignoring how Kobe got carried in the first 3 rings
3 rings as leader in the most competitive era, Bird > Kobe YOU MAD MR. JABBAR/9erempire/KOBE413/The-Legend-24/Dunce Bungalow/eliteballer
Re: hey sorry fans, Kobe is far from being the GOAT
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Originally Posted by PistolPete44
Jordan, Bird, Magic, Shaq and Kareem
Stans like to say how Kobe accomplished a lot and ranked him above the likes of Bird and Magic, completely ignoring how Kobe got carried in the first 3 rings
3 rings as leader in the most competitive era, Bird > Kobe YOU MAD MR. JABBAR/9erempire/KOBE413/The-Legend-24/Dunce Bungalow/eliteballer
MR. JABBAR/9erempire/KOBE413/The-Legend-24/Dunce Bungalow/eliteballer = the dream team of p h a g g o t s in ISH.
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Re: hey sorry fans, Kobe is far from being the GOAT
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Originally Posted by Kiddlovesnets
Well only trolls would rank Kobe at the same level as Magic, Bird and Kareem. These are top 5 players of all time, Kobe is bottom top 10 or below.
I honestly feel clyde drexler was better than Kobe. At least Clyde lead his team to the finals with him being the main man with a bunch of role players.
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I honestly feel clyde drexler was better than Kobe. At least Clyde lead his team to the finals with him being the main man with a bunch of role players.
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I honestly think you're an idiot
Kobe gets all the help in the world and still can't win shit. he can't win without Shaq and prime Gasol. Kobe has Dwight, Nash and his team still garbage. Drexler basically went to the finals all by himself in 92.
Re: hey sorry fans, Kobe is far from being the GOAT
Seriously if Iverson, and Drexler had the same supporting cast Kobe had in the early 2000's, then they would have just as many rings. Kobe was really like a role player with superstar status on them old laker teams. Whenever Kobe had his chance to be the go to guy with Shaq, they usually lost.
Re: hey sorry fans, Kobe is far from being the GOAT
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I honestly feel clyde drexler was better than Kobe. At least Clyde lead his team to the finals with him being the main man with a bunch of role players.
Did you see what Terry Porter did? There were series where he was Portland's MVP. He was an excellent all around point guard who played both ends, was a good playmaker and a very good scorer as one of the best 3 point shooters at the time, the ability to create off the dribble, and a size advantage over most point guards which he was able to exploit as well as the ability to play off the ball.
Portland was considered the most talented team in the West for several years, and the most talented team in the league at one point. Portland had a bunch of great athletes who thrived in their up-tempo style, in addition to an excellent defender and rebounder in Buck Williams who was still a solid offensive player, a very good low post scorer in Kevin Duckworth and eventually, the addition of Danny Ainge in '91.
Calling that a cast of role players, as if it's less than what Kobe had is a joke. In '90, Clyde was the 3rd leading scorer in Portland's first 2 series and second leading scorer in the WCF.
Clyde stepped up more in '92 and had his best season, but he still had a lot of help. Terry Porter came up with huge series vs Phoenix and Utah when he averaged 26/8 in both series and was Portland's best player in the WCF series vs Utah completely outplaying John Stockton. Hell, Portland also had 7 players average double figures during their first 2 series in that '92 run.
I always liked Clyde, but he wasn't as good as Dwyane Wade, much less Kobe. And he had to carry Portland less than Kobe had to carry the Lakers.
Just look at Kobe play vs Clyde and it's obvious this isn't a debate. Kobe's scoring skill set is so far above Clyde's in a half court game, whether it's mid-range or long range shooting, footwork or creating his own shot off the dribble. He was also a better defender than Clyde, and while Clyde was the better rebounder and passer, I'm not sure I'd call Clyde a better playmaker in a half court game. Either way, their scoring ability is far enough apart that they're not close as players since Kobe wasn't just a scorer himself, but an excellent all around player.
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Re: hey sorry fans, Kobe is far from being the GOAT
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Originally Posted by PistolPete44
Jordan, Bird, Magic, Shaq and Kareem
Stans like to say how Kobe accomplished a lot and ranked him above the likes of Bird and Magic, completely ignoring how Kobe got carried in the first 3 rings
3 rings as leader in the most competitive era, Bird > Kobe YOU MAD MR. JABBAR/9erempire/KOBE413/The-Legend-24/Dunce Bungalow/eliteballer
faak dat Copy Cryant!
The most overrated all-time great in NBA history.
Kobe is no Top 10 GOATs. He just dont got anything besides chucking & alienating his team mates.
He was never a team leader. He was always a one-dimentional scorer his whole career.
LBJ has overtaken Kobe now IMO in Top 12 GOATs ever.