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    Default LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.




    Speak haters. How do you dispute this evidence?

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    Default Re: LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.

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    Speak haters. How do you dispute this evidence?
    FG% is nice, but what are the volume of shots?

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    Default Re: LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.

    Quote Originally Posted by mjokc
    FG% is nice, but what are the volume of shots?
    this.

    Kyrie Irving is at 54.4% right now but it doesn't even show how many shots they are using that sample size off of.

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    Default Re: LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.

    Melo is mad clutch

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    Default Re: LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.

    Not hating, but I'm pretty sure Lebron's numbers are wrong. He was at 23/69 going into his first Miami season and has been 4/22 since.

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    Default Re: LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.

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    Default Re: LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.

    I think LeBron's "unclutchness" is due to the fact that he doesn't have as many walk off shots as those guys listed, yet he's still great at the end of games.

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    Default Re: LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.

    Quote Originally Posted by stallionaire



    Speak haters. How do you dispute this evidence?
    This doesn't say much. The reason for this "un-clutchness" also stems from his LeBron's over-selectiveness in his shots, which makes him unable to draw a definite line between when it is best to be aggressive and when to be passive. Nonetheless, with Ray Allen now in the mix, I think this makes it is easier for him to draw this line now.

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    Default Re: LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.

    Quote Originally Posted by mjokc
    FG% is nice, but what are the volume of shots?
    Higher than Carmelo (and especially Durant obviously, less seasons afterall). You can see that here, although its only up to 2009: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...in-crunch-time (ironically enough the article touches on the myth of Kobe being very clutch)

    But Kobe has played more games than basically anybody today obviously so ofcourse he took more of those shots.

    Lebron is also 6 of 14 (43%) in the playoffs, Kobe is 7 of 29 (24%), Durant is 3 of 6... can see more details about that here: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=279220
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    Default Re: LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.

    Quote Originally Posted by no pun intended
    This doesn't say much. The reason for this "un-clutchness" also stems from his LeBron's over-selectiveness in his shots, which makes him unable to draw a definite line between when it is best to be aggressive and when to be passive. Nonetheless, with Ray Allen now in the mix, I think this makes it is easier for him to draw this line now.
    Is Carmelo over-selective to and passive? No? Then why has Carmelo taken less and made less gamewinning/gametying shots despite coming in to the NBA the same year Lebron did? What excuse do we use now?
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    Default Re: LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.

    try prove it to the mavs fans.

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    Default Re: LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.

    please.
    only reason his fg% might be a bit higher because he NEVER/HARDLY takes those shots when his team is down. It's always hot potato pass to mario chalmers last season, and this season ALWAYS passes to his daddy ray allen. only when his team is tied, or because of some scramble he's suddenly wide open, then he'll take the shot.

    any clutchness spewed by lebron fans such as pauk, lebron23 is the real myth. he just doesn't got it. and there's nothing to be ashamed of, he's still a heck of a player.

    lebron fans, just let it go.

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    Default Re: LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.

    Quote Originally Posted by White Mamba
    try prove it to the mavs fans.
    ~4 games is not exactly the be all end all for a players capability in any facet of the game, for the good or for the bad.... just before that series everybody was debating who the best clutch player was in the playoffs him or Nowitzki, after that ECF performance on both ends in the clutch it was all about Lebron (which made his performance in the clutch vs Mavs even more shocking after that work he did against Celtics & Bulls).... lots can happen in that very short span, from overall luck or rythm or good shot/plays/decisions, to bad luck or no rythm or bad shots/plays/decisions (especially in Lebrons situation that year with the new team/role and ofcourse the scrutiny) ...

    In the clutch or in any way any player in NBA history underperformed in such a short span during the season or playoffs.... the sample size is just to small to make anything out of it except prove that "This player played bad during these 4 games"... because in example Lebrons case at the end of the day in the Playoffs Lebron is overall 6 of 14 in the gamewinner department, averages highest 4th quarter PPG and has the best "clutch stats" (performance with 5 minutes or less in 4th/OT with neither team ahead of more than 5 pts) and im sure you know of some of his historic playoff clutch highlights & performances... that his numbers catapult in the playoffs is just another bonus....

    PS: What happened to Lebron vs Mavs in the clutch (or his PPG for that series) is the worst productive series you will EVER see from Lebron, i believe we will never see anything close to as that bad from him (and you couldnt see it before either)...... it was THAT bad by Lebrons standards...
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    Default Re: LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    Is Carmelo over-selective to and passive? No? Then why has Carmelo taken less and made less gamewinning/gametying shots despite coming in to the NBA the same year Lebron did? What excuse do we use now?
    Maybe cause funnily enough, as chance has it, not every game comes down to a last shot.

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    Default Re: LeBron's 'Un-Clutch' Myth. He's actually more clutch than Kobe and Durant.

    Quote Originally Posted by stallionaire



    Speak haters. How do you dispute this evidence?
    So no mention of hating Melo or the Knicks, how do you dispute this evidence?

    How's the Wolves going?

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