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LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat that were "unfair to NBA": $67M Total payroll of 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
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Re: LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
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Re: LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
LeBron James $22,970,500
Kevin Love $19,689,000
Kyrie Irving $16,407,500
Tristan Thompson $14,260,870
Iman Shumpert $9,000,000
Channing Frye $7,807,579
J.R. Smith $5,000,000
Lebron James $14,500,000
Chris Bosh $14,500,000
Dywayne Wade $14,500,000
Mike Miller $5,000,000
Udonis Haslem $3,500,000
Joel Anthony $3,300,000
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Re: LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
Originally Posted by Funktion
LeBron James $22,970,500
Kevin Love $19,689,000
Kyrie Irving $16,407,500
Tristan Thompson $14,260,870
Iman Shumpert $9,000,000
Channing Frye $7,807,579
J.R. Smith $5,000,000
Lebron James $14,500,000
Chris Bosh $14,500,000
Dywayne Wade $14,500,000
Mike Miller $5,000,000
Udonis Haslem $3,500,000
Joel Anthony $3,300,000
That Tristan Thompson contract
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Re: LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
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Local High School Star
Re: LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
The difference between :
Pat Riley building a team
VS
LeGM and Dan Gilbert building a team
Look at those Cavalier contracts. This is it for them. They are back to 2009-2010 situation with a team full of bloated contracts, no draft picks, and losing.
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NBA Legend
Re: LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
Yes, thats exactly why he definitely needs more help FROM HIS CURRENT TEAMMATES....... again, you are confusing "needing more talent" with "needing more help" (from his teammates)....
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Re: LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
Originally Posted by pauk
Yes, thats exactly why he definitely needs more help FROM HIS CURRENT TEAMMATES....... again, you are confusing "needing more talent" with "needing more help" (from his teammates)....
Would be justified if LeBron himself was playing well, but this is pretty much throwing rocks while sitting in a glass house.
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NBA Legend
Re: LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
Originally Posted by GeeWiz
Would be justified if LeBron himself was playing well, but this is pretty much throwing rocks while sitting in a glass house.
Lebron averages a 20+ point triple double... perhaps not playing up to his PRIME LEBRON standards but he definitely is playing up to his current standards, all year long in a season where it has been confirmed that Kawhi / Curry are better and Curry/Warriors are the favorite by far.... see how they are doing.... for Curry we dont have to worry with Warriors, he just won a game with a blowout despite just sitting on the bench dropping 11 pts.... where this time instead of Iggy, it looks like Draymond or even Livingston will recieve more FMVP votes.....
Again, basketball is a team sport.... the best TEAM will always win no matter the **** an individual does... see even Jordan before his 1st championship, he was dropping 40-50 points left & right (efficiently), there wasnt a single game he didnt went nuts in, HE WAS UNSTOPPABLE, HIS TEAM HOWEVER, different story.... the shit doesnt matter when your supporting cast isnt good enough and/or doesnt show up to play just simply up their standards (even if that standard is just averaging 5 ppg)....
Last edited by pauk; 06-08-2016 at 04:53 AM.
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Re: LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
Originally Posted by pauk
Lebron averages a 20+ point triple double... perhaps not playing up to his PRIME LEBRON standards but he definitely is playing up to his current standards, all year long in a season where it has been confirmed that Kawhi / Curry are better.... see how they are doing.... for Curry we dont have to worry with Warriors, he just won a game with 20+ points blowout despite just sitting in the bench dropping 11 pts.... where this time instead of Iggy, it looks like Draymond or even Livingston will recieve more FMVP votes.....
Again, basketball is a team sport.... the best TEAM will always win no matter the **** an individual does... see even Jordan before his 1st championship, he was dropping 40-50 points left & right (efficiently), there wasnt a single game he didnt went nuts in, HE WAS UNSTOPPABLE, HIS TEAM HOWEVER, different story.... the shit doesnt matter when your supporting cast isnt good enough and/or doesnt show up to play just simply up their standards (even if its just averaging 5 ppg)....
You're just using numbers, watch the games, numbers don't mean shit if they don't impact the game. Curry is still impacting the game despite looking poor on the stat sheet, thats where LeBron falls short.
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Let's Talks Numbers
Re: LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
Originally Posted by pauk
Lebron averages a 20+ point triple double... perhaps not playing up to his PRIME LEBRON standards but he definitely is playing up to his current standards, all year long in a season where it has been confirmed that Kawhi / Curry are better and Curry/Warriors are the favorite by far.... see how they are doing.... for Curry we dont have to worry with Warriors, he just won a game with a blowout despite just sitting on the bench dropping 11 pts.... where this time instead of Iggy, it looks like Draymond or even Livingston will recieve more FMVP votes.....
Again, basketball is a team sport.... the best TEAM will always win no matter the **** an individual does... see even Jordan before his 1st championship, he was dropping 40-50 points left & right (efficiently), there wasnt a single game he didnt went nuts in, HE WAS UNSTOPPABLE, HIS TEAM HOWEVER, different story.... the shit doesnt matter when your supporting cast isnt good enough and/or doesnt show up to play just simply up their standards (even if that standard is just averaging 5 ppg)....
Extremely convenient for you to think this now. Lol. This is not true in every case. Time and time again, the better player has LED their team to victory over tough odds.
Curry's MERE PRESENCE on the court is HAVING MORE OF A POSITIVE IMPACT than lebron james with the basketball in his hands.
Curry is getting his teammates open by literally just running around in circles (back-cuts/baseline screens and etc)
He's playing shawdow basketball with the Cavaliers.
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Local High School Star
Re: LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
Originally Posted by 34-24 Footwork
Extremely convenient for you to think this now. Lol. This is not true in every case. Time and time again, the better player has LED their team to victory over tough odds.
Curry's MERE PRESENCE on the court is HAVING MORE OF A POSITIVE IMPACT than lebron james with the basketball in his hands.
Curry is getting his teammates open by literally just running around in circles (back-cuts/baseline screens and etc)
He's playing shawdow basketball with the Cavaliers.
This is true.
I'm watching defensive replays and breakdowns on youtube, and a lot of people are pointing out James' terrible D because he's focused on Curry so much. The Cavs will go out of their way to double team Curry and bump him or push him around to break up his movements.... but it's leaving Curry's teammates open for shots.
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Let's Talks Numbers
Re: LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
Originally Posted by GeeWiz
You're just using numbers, watch the games, numbers don't mean shit if they don't impact the game. Curry is still impacting the game despite looking poor on the stat sheet, thats where LeBron falls short.
Lol. Lebron is literally switching on screens that are are 5 feet from the basket so he can go for easy steals by shooting gaps....leaving Barnes/Iggy for layups.
Meanwhile....Curry doesn't have to do anything because the bench is ethering the eastern conference "champs"
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NBA Legend
Re: LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
Originally Posted by GeeWiz
You're just using numbers, watch the games, numbers don't mean shit if they don't impact the game. Curry is still impacting the game despite looking poor on the stat sheet, thats where LeBron falls short.
How does it not impact the game? Ofcourse its nowhere enough to obliterate the Warriors.... but Lebron is still accountable for most of Cavs points on the boxscore by way of individual points & setting up others for points and has been their best rebounder & defender...
But is that enough to beat the Warriors? Clearly not... the impact is nowhere enough, Lebrons impact works as high only as whatever he has to work with around him (and how they perform) allows it to go...
Numbers dont lie, the numbers that i have forgot to show you is his teams bench points and how they are doing when he is not playing (on the bench) compared to not only the Warriors bench points but everybody else.......
Aginst this Warrirors team the requirements for how much impact is needed is HISTORICALLY HIGH.... unless you to have a historically stacked team....
The way Warriros are playing and the way Cavs supporting cast is playing I doubt even prime Jordan will be enough to win this Finals... maybe he could squeeze out 1-2 wins tho.... yay...
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NBA Legend
Re: LeGM: Total payroll of 2010-11 Heat: $67M. 2015-16 Cavs that "need more help": $108M
Originally Posted by 34-24 Footwork
Extremely convenient for you to think this now. Lol. This is not true in every case. Time and time again, the better player has LED their team to victory over tough odds.
Curry's MERE PRESENCE on the court is HAVING MORE OF A POSITIVE IMPACT than lebron james with the basketball in his hands.
Curry is getting his teammates open by literally just running around in circles (back-cuts/baseline screens and etc)
He's playing shawdow basketball with the Cavaliers.
Yes... he just has to run around in circles, not even that, but just sit on the bench with his 11 points & have his entire bench drop 46 pts, 16 rebs & 11 assists compared to Cavs bench 10 pts, 3 rbs, 1 ast.... its his presence... he doesnt even need to be there, his teammates just have to have his picture in their pockets...
That impact.....
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