top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

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Pfft. Howard is arguably the most consistent player on that team. He almost always has at least 15/6. Dirk can go from having 30/10 to 23/2.

so Howard is consistantly lower than Dirk...ok

[Richie2k6]

A stretch of Josh Howard games this season in points:

23, 12, 30, 9, 29, 15, 23, 28, 15, 25, 27, 16, 15, 28, 21, 15, 20, 21, 17, 15.

In that game he had 9, he played 27 minutes and attempted 10 shots.

[IGOTGAME]

yes Dirk is still top 5. he's the same place he has been all along:

1. Duncan
2. Bron
3. KG
4/5/6: Kobe, Dirk, Wade any order doesn't matter I put them all on the same basic level for all practical purposes

explain to me how Bron is better than Kobe and Wade???? Explain to me how Dirk is anywhere near wither Kobe or Wade...

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yes Dirk is still top 5. he's the same place he has been all along:

1. Duncan
2. Bron
3. KG
4/5/6: Kobe, Dirk, Wade any order doesn't matter I put them all on the same basic level for all practical purposes

you know if Kobe was in Lebron's shoes he would have done the same if not better...

[Richie2k6]

so Howard is consistantly lower than Dirk...ok

I'd probably rather have a consistent 20/7 guy than a 25/10, 15/2, 12/8, 24/5 guy.

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explain to me how Bron is better than Kobe and Wade???? Explain to me how Dirk is anywhere near wither Kobe or Wade...

Kobe...no

Wade...easy

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I'd probably rather have a consistent 20/7 guy than a 30/10, 15/2. 12/8, 24/5 guy.

OH WTF RICH...

now you're gonna tell me that Howard is better than Dirk.....come on dude

[Devientz]

Heres my feelings on Wade...

As far as I'm concerned he had one outstanding series against Dallas and thats it. Im not trying to downplay it, but thats the only reason hes even considered in this topic. Granted he hasnt been in the league long, and hes on his way, but hes not there yet and hes way overated imo. I dont hate Wade, but i dont think hes done enough to be considered top 5. Hes definately an all-star callibur player, but he just hasnt done enough to prove himself in my eyes. If he followed up his finals MVP with an outstanding season then Id probably have him top 3, but he didnt and then he got injured...Anyone can have 1 outstanding playoff series. Takes more than that to be considered great especially when your in the east. If he takes his team back to the top next year he will change my mind.

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Heres my feelings on Wade...

As far as I'm concerned he had one outstanding series against Dallas and thats it. Im not trying to downplay it, but thats the only reason hes even considered in this topic. Granted he hasnt been in the league long, and hes on his way, but hes not there yet and hes way overated imo. I dont hate Wade, but i dont think hes done enough to be considered top 5. Hes definately an all-star callibur player, but he just hasnt done enough to prove himself in my eyes. If he followed up his finals MVP with an outstanding season then Id probably have him top 3, but he didnt and then he got injured...Anyone can have 1 outstanding playoff series. Takes more than that to be considered great especially when your in the east. If he takes his team back to the top next year he will change my mind.

agreed...

and nice post

[GOBB]

How did Lebron do enough to prove himself but not Wade

Dirk proved he cant defeat the midgets in G.S Pathetic.

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How did Lebron do enough to prove himself but not Wade

lebron did it without shaq and stays healthy...

[mlh1981]

People seem to forget that Wade had a fine rookie season w/o Shaq and took them on a decent playoff run.

[Richie2k6]

OH WTF RICH...

now you're gonna tell me that Howard is better than Dirk.....come on dude

When in the name of f*ck did I say Howard > Dirk?

[Richie2k6]

lebron did it without shaq and stays healthy...

Stfu about Shaq and health for the love of God.

[GOBB]

lebron did it without shaq and stays healthy...

Ohhhhh there we go. The Shaq factor. So basically Wade will never prove himself until Shaq is gone. Thats basically all you and others are stating. Look up the Heats record and Wade's production when Shaq was sitting his fat ass on the bench. Proves enough.

While you look up that I'll leave you with this.


Dirk in the NBA finals vs the Heat avg 23ppg shooting 39% FG and 25% from downtown in 6 games.

Dirk the following year in the first round vs GS avg 20ppg shooting 38% FG and 21% from downtown in 6 games.

But eh, Wade has to prove himself because Shaq fat ass is on the team. Pat Riley said it best in reference to Shaq "Maybe we should start paying him only half of his contract since he plays half a season?".