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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    Quote Originally Posted by c3z4r
    I find this to be very flawed because you don't factor in 3pointers, which are included into FGA, and free-throw attempts, which don't count as a FGA. I mean, for example, Lebron is currently shooting a career low free-throws, so if this trend continues he'll have to take more FGA to compensate for the lack of free-throws points.

    Edit: I wasn't asking because I don't know how to calculate, but rather because a simple calculation won't do.

    If you want to do a total calculation, scaling for FTA, then it would be


    30k-total points scored=y=points needed for 30k

    y/(ppg average for recent trend say 4 years)=X=games needed for 30k

    (.44*FTA averaged during trend)+(FGA averaged during trend)=Z=average shots needed per game to reach 30k

    X*Z=N=shots needed to reach 30k=N

    (Career FTA*.44 + Career FGA)+N=total shots needed to reach 30k points

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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    Quote Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
    The greatest trick Kobe ever pulled was making his longevity look easy. The large majority of players dont stay this good this long.
    Durant is secretly 7 feet tall. And people just ASSUME Durant will be the goat scorer even though the dude is running like a racing horse right now, how will he even match what he's doing now in the next 6 years? You can't compare the legs of a 6'6 guard to a 7 footer

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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    As mentioned earlier, Kobe's longevity is insane. This is Kobe's 17th season and he's averaging 28/5/5. Here's the few others who come close in their 17th season:


    Kareem- 23/6/3+
    Malone- 22/8+/4/2

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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    Quote Originally Posted by c3z4r
    I find this to be very flawed because you don't factor in 3pointers, which are included into FGA, and free-throw attempts, which don't count as a FGA. I mean, for example, Lebron is currently shooting a career low free-throws, so if this trend continues he'll have to take more FGA to compensate for the lack of free-throws points.

    Edit: I wasn't asking because I don't know how to calculate, but rather because a simple calculation won't do.
    Well you don't need to include free throws attempted because if OP is referring to purely the number of field goals attempted then you only need to calculate these guys based on their field goals attempted. Obviously it makes LeBron/Durant's pace look MUCH better than Kobe's if they get more free throws than he did.

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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    who cares how many shots he needed...he got there and congrats

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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    Quote Originally Posted by pejavelin
    DUMB THREAD

    because historically S Guards have better FG% than Centers and pf. hes not too far from mj in fga and mj was a beast. just being in that group is an honor.
    How dare you try to bring common sense into a good ole Kobe hating thread.

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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    According to ESPN stats guy, Kobe shots more shots Per minute than Allen Iverson, I think thats highest ever?

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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    He also reached the 30k milestone holding 5 rings, how did the other ones fare when at that milestone

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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    Kobe currently has more career points than Lebron and Durant COMBINED


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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    Quote Originally Posted by Whoah10115
    Nope. Because, statistically, they may never be this efficient again.



    For example, stupid, Michael Jordan. The year the Bulls won their second title he had his lowest PPG average in 6 years. And he took .3 more shots per game than the year before, while scoring 1.4PPG less.


    So, it seems like your argument is full of shit. But please, go ahead and tell me how I'm wrong.

    You're an idiot

    Player A averages
    5.0 ppg year 1
    7.0 ppg year 2
    11.0 ppg year 3
    16.0 ppg year 4
    22.0 ppg year 5
    25.0 ppg year 6
    23.0 ppg year 7

    His average for these 7 years were 15.2 ppg

    After averaging 23.3 ppg over the past 3 years, you would expect him to average 15.2 ppg in year 8?

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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Jabbar
    He also reached the 30k milestone holding 5 rings, how did the other ones fare when at that milestone
    Durant is on pace to win 0 rings, the KING maybe 2 at best.

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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    Quote Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
    Kobe currently has more career points than Lebron and Durant COMBINED


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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    Quote Originally Posted by DStebb716
    PS- His Michael Jordan number is false. It took MJ 22,956 shots to get to 30,000. That's only 107 less than Kobe.
    Must be his Wizards years.

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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    Quote Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
    Durant is on pace to win 0 rings, the KING maybe 2 at best.

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    Default Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

    I hope this takes into account that Kobe is the ONLY 30,000+ scorer to play through 2 LOCKOUT seasons. Back in 99 the season didn't start till February ( would've been an all star again too) and just last year season didn't start till christmas. If last season was a full season he would've been hit 30k

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